agree. i have had quite a few dogs over the years, most decent enough, a few not really up to scratch and a couple of really outstanding bitches. i know people who have bred from far worse dogs than these, not even for the money but simply because they wanted to see what they would get! i have never bred a litter in over 30 years of owning running dogs, not because i havent had some first rate animals but to me, i have a duty to ensure that every pup has a good home, and finding the right homes for 8,9,10 pups isnt guaranteed