Trump Under Fire

[TRUEBRIT66 2,526]

Just now, mC HULL said:

Both are now allies is iran ? 

No obviously not they are still "at war" !

 

  

[mC HULL 18,578]

3 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

No obviously not they are still "at war" !

 

  

So you compensate people who are your enemy ? 

[Lenmcharristar 10,744]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

Blinder from Iran beat the greatest military ever tbrew insurance company's and weak leaders 

Fgs put the glue down mate lol

[TRUEBRIT66 2,526]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

So you compensate people who are your enemy ? 

Really my 5 year old grandson would get it, but just for you ................A while back there was this nasty big bully and he started to pick on me but I stood up to the bully and we had a fight. Because he started it the teacher made him pay me some money to pay for my ripped trousers, the bully is now my friend and we share our sweets.

Recently there's this other kid who keeps saying he wants me dead he is a bit sneaky and believes in a strange god that married a child. Im thinking of giving him a dig before he brings a knife to school and carries out his threats, it will be worth a few quid after I rip his trousers just to put him in his place and I dont care if he wants to be my friend after because Im not sharing my sweets with him.

Hope you got that?   

[mC HULL 18,578]

21 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Fgs put the glue down mate lol

Im on the glue coming from men think the yanks have won in iran and just gone to the moon on a firework

Wow  

[iworkwhippets 13,307]

Helloooo,   take it from me a sensible chap, and stop surmsing , IT AINT OVER TILL THE FAT LADY SINGS

[mackem 31,887]

21 hours ago, jukel123 said:

I've seen Shariah canings on video. They are pretty symbolic. Tame stuff. They are far gentler in their canings than embittered , psychopathic teachers routinely handed out in the 50s, and nothing like the beatings a certain dominatrix of my acquaintance dishes out.

https://youtu.be/OqDLETu8dfg?si=3wr-XxBNL2O35sz4

Just by watching the clip Juk I can tell you it’s  Banda Aceh morality police,that’s not real Sharia,it’s a public shaming excercise meant to embarrass rather than cause pain

[mackem 31,887]

16 hours ago, WataWalloper said:

What a poofter haha 

 

[chartpolski 30,191]

1 hour ago, mC HULL said:

 

 

The Americans found that pilot quicker then we can find wilf chart or stiffy on this thread  

I can’t speak for Wilf or Stiffy, but I’m busy enjoying totally destroying any credibility you may have had on the other thread

Cheers.

[WILF 53,324]

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

I think it’s far too early to tell. Despite my criticism this is a great step towards a good outcome.

Totally agree

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

My view is that tactically this has shown what the US is capable of once again to the world. Stuff that no other nation could even begin to dream of. But then I don’t think any of that was really in doubt.

It wasn’t in doubt but talks cheap and knowing it is one thing but showing it is quiet another dont you think mate ?

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Strategically however I don’t think this has delivered anything very positive for the US (or us in the UK).

I think the same as the first paragraph mate, nobody knows yet.

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

It has seriously damaged almost all US strategic relations/alliances. Literally everyone has been politically attacked by POTUS and SecWar. After at least a year of being threatened, belittled and economic attacks. You might think that these alliances are meaningless but americas strength is in leveraging being a strong ally. That’s now seriously threatened. They’d need 100 CSGs to do what their current alliances allow them to do.

I think stress testing anything in real situations is always good…..my own view is, the US have done this and Europe got found wanting.

They love sitting round giving it big licks at the UN but this has proved they don’t have the stomach for it……it’s no surprise to me, these people are too busy waging a genocide on their own people, they couldn’t care less about Iran. 

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

The petrodollar is in question. It’s backed by military protection. That same military just put all the Arab states under attack. That petrodollar system allows the US to overleverage their economy, to fund that military. It also allows them to project power without expensive carriers through an extensive system of regional bases. And even with all this power and tactical success they were clearly rattled by the Hormuz situation. It showed cracks in even the might US war machines capabilities.

That’s stress test again ??……

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Extending the damage, will be countries now not seeing the US as a reliable supplier of weapons. They’ve made it clear that they will use whatever they can to manipulate ‘allies’ and that needs to be considered a serious risk. For instance if the yanks said “f**k the uk you’re not having anything off us anymore” then we’d have essentially no more jets for our carriers and no more Tomahawks for our subs making our very flashy and expensive carriers almost useless.

Good, we shouldn’t be in that position in the first place and maybe a few people will realise it now ?

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Further to this I assumed at the start control of the Straight would starve China, and in fact the opposite happened. It starved us! And consequently sanctions were lifted on states that are actual adversaries, total self harm with that one. I know you don’t see Russia as adversarial but it certainly didn’t help us. 
 

We picked a fight with Russia, I absolutely hope that bites the ruling elites in Europe on the arse.

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Regime change has not happened, the faces may have changed but the regime has survived. The Kurds want no part in doing the hard work, and why would they after decades of being f****d over by the US (see how this shit comes back to haunt you when reputation matters) and it doesn’t seem like the citizen uprising has come to anything. Nothing like an existential threat to get factions rallying around the same flag!

Quite possible mate, question is, is that a problem for us ? I genuinely don’t know because I’m not that up on the micro scenarios playing out in that area.

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

Extremists will have been given a huge recruitment boost in the same way IS came out of the shitfest that was Iraq.

f**k em !…..these people were going to hurt us at some point anyway so the sooner rhwy get dragged out into the light the better.

Ive never believed that if we play nice they will take pity on us and leave us alone…..I think that’s just a pathetic, cowardly position to take with these people.

They are f***ing animals and the sooner they stick their head up the sooner people will wake up to what we have invited into our society’s 

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

And finally, now the regime and every other malign regime out there knows for a categorical fact they need a nuclear deterrent. Simply maintaining the knowledge and tools to spin one out when escalation starts is not enough, you need a deployable system now.

And they also know there’s a good chance they will get levelled if they try ?

4 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

But as I say it’s too early. I think this cease fire is a great step and hopefully Trump will use the intelligent members of his administration to do what he does well, make a deal.

Totally Fair 

[WILF 53,324]

2 hours ago, mC HULL said:

 

The Americans found that pilot quicker then we can find wilf chart or stiffy on this thread  

It’s like when we was in our 20s and you’d get the aggressive short c**t outside the taxi rank thinking he was Conan the Barbarian…..you kick him all up and down the street until he looked like a side of beef because it was funny but after a while you get a bit tired and start to feel bad for the little f****r ! lol 

[TOMO 30,505]

4 minutes ago, WILF said:

It’s like when we was in our 20s and you’d get the aggressive short c**t outside the taxi rank thinking he was Conan the Barbarian…..you kick him all up and down the street until he looked like a side of beef because it was funny but after a while you get a bit tired and start to feel bad for the little f****r ! lol 

Are you saying mchull is the little short guy you want to kick up and down the street....can I get in on the this action...lol

[Born Hunter 18,157]

8 minutes ago, WILF said:

Totally agree

It wasn’t in doubt but talks cheap and knowing it is one thing but showing it is quiet another dont you think mate ?

I think the same as the first paragraph mate, nobody knows yet.

I think stress testing anything in real situations is always good…..my own view is, the US have done this and Europe got found wanting.

They love sitting round giving it big licks at the UN but this has proved they don’t have the stomach for it……it’s no surprise to me, these people are too busy waging a genocide on their own people, they couldn’t care less about Iran. 

That’s stress test again ??……

Good, we shouldn’t be in that position in the first place and maybe a few people will realise it now ?

We picked a fight with Russia, I absolutely hope that bites the ruling elites in Europe on the arse.

Quite possible mate, question is, is that a problem for us ? I genuinely don’t know because I’m not that up on the micro scenarios playing out in that area.

f**k em !…..these people were going to hurt us at some point anyway so the sooner rhwy get dragged out into the light the better.

Ive never believed that if we play nice they will take pity on us and leave us alone…..I think that’s just a pathetic, cowardly position to take with these people.

They are f***ing animals and the sooner they stick their head up the sooner people will wake up to what we have invited into our society’s 

And they also know there’s a good chance they will get levelled if they try ?

Totally Fair 

Way too many subtopics there to respond to on here. I disagree with much of it of course but I think that’s fine. 

[mC HULL 18,578]

3 minutes ago, WILF said:

It’s like when we was in our 20s and you’d get the aggressive short c**t outside the taxi rank thinking he was Conan the Barbarian…..you kick him all up and down the street until he looked like a side of beef because it was funny but after a while you get a bit tired and start to feel bad for the little f****r ! lol 

Quality the taxi rank I used to love it didn't you

[TOMO 30,505]

Just now, mC HULL said:

Quality the taxi rank I used to love it didn't you

I got my foot run over in the taxi rank...mind I deserved it...was trying to drag some twat out of the taxi whilst trying to give him some digs