Also ALOT of terriers, regardless of terrier meaning 'earth' were never ceated to go to ground, staffs, pits, airdales, manchesters, yorkies etc etc, so that theory doesn't hold up either. 3rd rate cull etc?! I had a russell bitch many years ago that was the most committed bushing dog I've ever seen, even to this day, and that was 40 years ago! Oh f**k, yep, she would occasionally drop to ground