Lidle Find

[EDDIE B 3,120]

Ok I know there was a few verified cases back in the 80's. Mainly pets that we're released when laws changed. So since that time, have their been any more verified cases?

[Accip74 7,112]

Having worked in a zoo for several years & heard all the old stories from a keeper of 30 years, I will always keep an open mind. The amount of animals that got out of enclosures in the 80s is scary as fcuk! Haha......Several big cats, some just within the zoo grounds & some out of bounds, to my knowledge all of these were recovered, but unreported & kept quiet. Even now, stuff gets out on occasion.

There's a hell of a lot kept quiet in the zoo trade.....;-)

 

This was just one zoo, add to that the other shitty little zoos & private collections, then it's highly likely there have been many escapes, unreported.

I went to a rough little place some years back which specialised in leopards, many of which melanistic & the enclosures were fcuking shite! It was laughable!

 

However, breeding stock in the wild I find hard to get my head round! Escapees living wild for a few years is not so unbelievable & according to things I've been told by 100% trustworthy people, then I'll always keep an open mind. :-)

[Daniel cain 42,899]

I would have thought someone would have found the remains of a dead large cat if they did exist in this country ,has anyone reported finding and have you ever seen remains of a dead large cat greyman a large scull for example or any remains

I was shown a photo 2 seasons ago off some lads I know through someone else-there's not alot they don't drop with their bull x s,they slipped 3 dogs on something a few feilds away,dogs stopped about hundred yards from what ever it was,then came running back to them lol-they got in the car and f****d off-told the farmer and he laughed -couple of weeks later he shot something. It was in the back of a single cab hilux with tail gate down-nose touched front of load liner and it's tail hung 1 1/2 ft of the back-they took pics and it went in the incinerator.had front fangs a good 50/60 mm long and thick,around 2 1/2 ft tts and over 6 ft in lenght. There was adult big cat foot prints along with 2 sets of young paw marks outside storey arms visitors centre next to pen-y-fan mountain found in the snow not to long ago.atb dc

[C.green 3,203]

is it at all possible chaps that sometimes these big cats are kept for shooting/hunting purposes at all ? Like the way pheasants are kept ?

 

I've seen a picture of something up a tree that was supposedly taken in the uk it wasn't black and it wasn't what you'd call big tho I don't know for sure meself common sense tells me that someone would've got decent footage of one by now tomo makes a good point rare animals are found for filming in vast places all the time.

Edited April 18, 2017 by C.green

[Greyman 25,295]

Greyman....serious question. Do you think the Loch Ness Monster is out there.?

no mate, but I,m open to convincing, the thing is with the cats there is lots of small Pieces of the puzzle it's upto people to look for it and put it together, my entire family called me a fool for what I do but now they believe me without question because they have seen what I have seen, I show them my pictures and my bits of evidence and they now understand what is here and the amount of shit I take because I choose to look for evidence, if I find a big fish that has been killed by an otter I can tell within a few minutes because they use the same technique to capture and drag the fish from the water they then eat the best fillet and leave the rest, it's an operation I have seen dozens of times, likewise when I find a deer,sheep fox or badger that has been killed and eaten in one sitting I can tell with almost 100 percent confidence if it's been killed by a big cat because the methods are always the same, i then check for dental markings on the bones and any bite marks these are sent off for the academics to deal with I just look for field evidence I have hunted over the same land for over thirty years never knowing there were any big cats there apart from one news paper report about 30 years ago were multiple people reported seeing one in the same spot, then in 2015 I was doing my rounds when I found a roe Buck that had been killed and totally consumed in one sitting as it was soft and fresh and dripping with blood, I placed my one and only camera in the hedge nearby hoping to catch the culprit but nothing happened, even though there was a large active badger set and a fox earth with two grown Cubs all in the same field, every animal that came anywere near the carcass reacted with fear and fled and it was over a fortnight before anything would touch it, but once they had they ate the rest in a couple of hours, since that day I have found some nice footprints several more carcasses all killed and eaten in exactly the same way and this year I got the picture I needed to prove to myself what I already new was living in the woods I had walked in for ever, since I have been looking and a few local people know what I do people get in touch with me and tell me what they have seen and I have had three different people report seeing a big cat in the woods and even photos of footprints this year alone, one couple have one of my cameras in there garden they live right in the middle of the woods and have had a cat pass through there garden in the past, they love looking at the wildlife and if the cat ever returns they will let me know, people just want to talk with someone who won't tell them they are wrong or mad, it's a bit of a snowball effect and as most of the hunting I have enjoyed over the years is now illegal and I,ve caught, killed and cooked most things there are living in the wild I now choose to spend my time hunting for evidence and pictures to help prove the case and maybe help people understand in the future, it keeps an old bloke fit and active keeps me out the house and gives me loads to speak with people about like all you lot here, cheers

[scothunter 12,609]

There lots of animals in Colombia that aren't native there. Hippos, monkeys and other stuff. Pablo escobar brought them over in the 80s.when he got killed and his cartel lost its grip they were let go or escaped. Not just talking about a few either.

[Greyman 25,295]

 

I would have thought someone would have found the remains of a dead large cat if they did exist in this country ,has anyone reported finding and have you ever seen remains of a dead large cat greyman a large scull for example or any remains

I was shown a photo 2 seasons ago off some lads I know through someone else-there's not alot they don't drop with their bull x s,they slipped 3 dogs on something a few feilds away,dogs stopped about hundred yards from what ever it was,then came running back to them lol-they got in the car and f****d off-told the farmer and he laughed -couple of weeks later he shot something. It was in the back of a single cab hilux with tail gate down-nose touched front of load liner and it's tail hung 1 1/2 ft of the back-they took pics and it went in the incinerator.had front fangs a good 50/60 mm long and thick,around 2 1/2 ft tts and over 6 ft in lenght. There was adult big cat foot prints along with 2 sets of young paw marks outside storey arms visitors centre next to pen-y-fan mountain found in the snow not to long ago.atb dc

mate if you could get me a copy of the picture I would love you forever, but your story is not the only one I,ve heard along the same lines, though one guy did once claim his dog had killed one then went quiet when I asked for a picture, but a few people with some good hard dogs have had them return with their tail up there ass and refuse to run again after slipping on a black shadow skulking along the edge of a field, have also had a few farmers tell me they had just shot and buried them to avoid any fuss

[Greyman 25,295]

Anybody see thing in tele other night, i missed it but missus says was about big cats living urban, an guy was using thermal imaging to see otherwise they just vanished into night.

Guys all over states tree em with hounds tho, its summat id love to do, tho id need to tree an free as culling it for no reason would he shit but its best way to find an see them other than stumbling up on em, thought the hounds over here would have picked up on scent from even odd one an tree it

I think a hunt in Yorkshire has flushed a couple with hounds, and some of the forestry workers use thermal imaging to monitor deer and boar numbers they often tell of picking out cats on there screens, I think the thermal image equipment is still a few years away from being affordable and decent, but when it's as widespread as night vision I think the cat will truelley be out the bag as there is nowhere to hide from it

[mackem 23,831]

There lots of animals in Colombia that aren't native there. Hippos, monkeys and other stuff. Pablo escobar brought them over in the 80s.when he got killed and his cartel lost its grip they were let go or escaped. Not just talking about a few either.

I have seen giraffe,zebra,and antelope in the philippines,marcos sequestered calauit island kicked the natives off and stocked the place with african wildlife so he didnt have to fly to the dark continent whenever he fancied shooting something exotic.

[Tiercel 6,986]

Long before the ban, every Sunday morning I used to act as a gun for a private pack of hounds, they also used lurchers and one chap had a couple of bull crosses that would see off a fox in a couple of seconds. One day at the meet we were talking about big cats as one had been spotted only a couple of miles away. He piped in, saying about a month before three of them had been out lamping foxes and had had a few when they spotted a pair of eyes that did not look like a fox or badger. So he slipped his two, the eyes disappeared and the dogs came back.

 

They walked another field or two and spotted the eyes again coming in to the squeaks, this time they waited trying to see what it was, but it would not leave the hedgerow and come out in to the open. So again they slipped the dogs this time the animal stood it's ground, even when the dogs got up to it they would not engage, but danced around the eyes barking and fainting strikes without actually making contact, after a couple of minutes the eyes disappeared along with the dogs following the eyes. By the time they got to the hedge where the eyes had been the dogs were back.

 

I am just relating the story as I was told. He was convinced it was a big cat, so much so that they took the hounds out there the next day and drew all around where they had been the night before and nothing out of the ordinary was risen. Even so he still believes it was a big cat.

 

If there are big cats out there and you are sceptical I suppose you would have to see it with your own eyes to believe it. No amount of photography is going to persuade you. Unless you have set a trail cam your self and one appears on it.

 

TC

[ChrisJones 7,973]

If there are big cats out there and you are sceptical I suppose you would have to see it with your own eyes to believe it. No amount of photography is going to persuade you. Unless you have set a trail cam your self and one appears on it.

I don't think even that is enough. With the stories told the evidence should be pretty well stacked in their favour. I can understand why those in the know wouldn't want to cause a panic, but why would it cause a panic?

 

I've said earlier in the thread, I live in cat country where I wouldn't be surprised if they outnumber the 600 residents of this little town. Panic? No. Carry a firearm? Definitely. The very nature of the way they hunt makes them very unlikely to be spotted unless it's too late but the evidence is everywhere.

 

Like with most things I'm open to the possibility, but this one seems fairly likely. It should be easy to prove compared to the likes of aliens, bigfoot, and religious miracles. They should get the evidence out there and let it stand up to the scrutiny.

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

If there are big cats out there and you are sceptical I suppose you would have to see it with your own eyes to believe it. No amount of photography is going to persuade you. Unless you have set a trail cam your self and one appears on it.

I don't think even that is enough. With the stories told the evidence should be pretty well stacked in their favour. I can understand why those in the know wouldn't want to cause a panic, but why would it cause a panic?

 

I've said earlier in the thread, I live in cat country where I wouldn't be surprised if they outnumber the 600 residents of this little town. Panic? No. Carry a firearm? Definitely. The very nature of the way they hunt makes them very unlikely to be spotted unless it's too late but the evidence is everywhere.

 

Like with most things I'm open to the possibility, but this one seems fairly likely. It should be easy to prove compared to the likes of aliens, bigfoot, and religious miracles. They should get the evidence out there and let it stand up to the scrutiny.

 

Chris, I think it is possible that there are big cats, Too many people have seen them for it to be a fallacy. One thing that does make me wonder if the government knows more than they are letting on, is why when there is a supposed sighting do the police get sent out in force if there was nothing to worry about? Do they know more than they are letting on about possible repercussions if there is a big cat in the area?

 

TC

[Daniel cain 42,899]

 

 

I would have thought someone would have found the remains of a dead large cat if they did exist in this country ,has anyone reported finding and have you ever seen remains of a dead large cat greyman a large scull for example or any remains

I was shown a photo 2 seasons ago off some lads I know through someone else-there's not alot they don't drop with their bull x s,they slipped 3 dogs on something a few feilds away,dogs stopped about hundred yards from what ever it was,then came running back to them lol-they got in the car and f****d off-told the farmer and he laughed -couple of weeks later he shot something. It was in the back of a single cab hilux with tail gate down-nose touched front of load liner and it's tail hung 1 1/2 ft of the back-they took pics and it went in the incinerator.had front fangs a good 50/60 mm long and thick,around 2 1/2 ft tts and over 6 ft in lenght. There was adult big cat foot prints along with 2 sets of young paw marks outside storey arms visitors centre next to pen-y-fan mountain found in the snow not to long ago.atb dc

mate if you could get me a copy of the picture I would love you forever, but your story is not the only one I,ve heard along the same lines, though one guy did once claim his dog had killed one then went quiet when I asked for a picture, but a few people with some good hard dogs have had them return with their tail up there ass and refuse to run again after slipping on a black shadow skulking along the edge of a field, have also had a few farmers tell me they had just shot and buried them to avoid any fuss

I can ask the lads next time I see them .I know what I saw on the pic with my own eyes-it was no ferel moggy.atb dc

[mroak 130]

 

Greyman....serious question. Do you think the Loch Ness Monster is out there.?

no mate, but I,m open to convincing, the thing is with the cats there is lots of small Pieces of the puzzle it's upto people to look for it and put it together, my entire family called me a fool for what I do but now they believe me without question because they have seen what I have seen, I show them my pictures and my bits of evidence and they now understand what is here and the amount of shit I take because I choose to look for evidence, if I find a big fish that has been killed by an otter I can tell within a few minutes because they use the same technique to capture and drag the fish from the water they then eat the best fillet and leave the rest, it's an operation I have seen dozens of times, likewise when I find a deer,sheep fox or badger that has been killed and eaten in one sitting I can tell with almost 100 percent confidence if it's been killed by a big cat because the methods are always the same, i then check for dental markings on the bones and any bite marks these are sent off for the academics to deal with I just look for field evidence I have hunted over the same land for over thirty years never knowing there were any big cats there apart from one news paper report about 30 years ago were multiple people reported seeing one in the same spot, then in 2015 I was doing my rounds when I found a roe Buck that had been killed and totally consumed in one sitting as it was soft and fresh and dripping with blood, I placed my one and only camera in the hedge nearby hoping to catch the culprit but nothing happened, even though there was a large active badger set and a fox earth with two grown Cubs all in the same field, every animal that came anywere near the carcass reacted with fear and fled and it was over a fortnight before anything would touch it, but once they had they ate the rest in a couple of hours, since that day I have found some nice footprints several more carcasses all killed and eaten in exactly the same way and this year I got the picture I needed to prove to myself what I already new was living in the woods I had walked in for ever, since I have been looking and a few local people know what I do people get in touch with me and tell me what they have seen and I have had three different people report seeing a big cat in the woods and even photos of footprints this year alone, one couple have one of my cameras in there garden they live right in the middle of the woods and have had a cat pass through there garden in the past, they love looking at the wildlife and if the cat ever returns they will let me know, people just want to talk with someone who won't tell them they are wrong or mad, it's a bit of a snowball effect and as most of the hunting I have enjoyed over the years is now illegal and I,ve caught, killed and cooked most things there are living in the wild I now choose to spend my time hunting for evidence and pictures to help prove the case and maybe help people understand in the future, it keeps an old bloke fit and active keeps me out the house and gives me loads to speak with people about like all you lot here, cheers

keep doing what your doing mate .

I don't believe there out there surviving but I don't think anyone can say there not a 100% .

one of my mates recons hes seen one and hes not the sort of lad to make up story's so who knows . I don't think that the original pictures real but thats not to say that all sightings are not real.

[ChrisJones 7,973]

Chris, I think it is possible that there are big cats, Too many people have seen them for it to be a fallacy. One thing that does make me wonder if the government knows more than they are letting on, is why when there is a supposed sighting do the police get sent out in force if there was nothing to worry about? Do they know more than they are letting on about possible repercussions if there is a big cat in the area?

I can agree with that TC but again why the conspiracy to keep it hushed? What purpose would that serve?

 

I certainly wouldn't feel the need to mock anyone that claims a sighting, but it's exactly because of all the anecdotal evidence that there should be more than that available. Pretty much everyone is carrying a decent HD recording device on their person most of the time. I'd expect to see more evidence because of this alone, even if it is ambiguous.