Lidle Find

[Greyman 25,294]

 

 

must be a british big cat,,,,after all it is black....

 

can you belivers tell me why these british big cats,,,land on british shores and all of a sudden become the most elusive animal on the plannet,,,,we have cctv everywhere,,,keepers and landowners with trail cams......and yet some bbc camera man rocks up in some peruvian jungle,,,and starts filming the very same animal,,,but in its natural camo pattern coat... or goes up the hymilaya and films the rarest of all cats the snow leopard ,,even hunting....

at last I thought you had abandon me, were do you want me to start mate, all the cats are not black, there are brown puma, Lynx and melonistic leopards or/and Jaguars, they have not just arrived at our shores,but have lived and bred here for years, many farmers and land owners with trail cameras and or cctv hand there footage to people like myself, because as I said earlier they have a feeling of respect and a wish to protect the animal but want to know about them, the footage of the snow leopard that people always like to refer to was taken because the local villagers had learned to live with it and it had less fear than most so became the focus of camera crews from all over, that one snow leopard is the some total of many years of searching by many people and hundreds of thousands of pounds spent, many of the other pieces of elusive big cat footage is made in captivity, I also recently met the guy that makes the trail cameras for animal planet he lives in the Forest of Dean, they cost five grand each plus the cost of the digital slr that goes inside them, which is a bit more than our £79.99 aldi cams hope that helps to clear up some of your worry,s mate

Well if you have had footage handed over mate, put it up old boy..... best way to shut up all the non believers ( I'm with you by the way)

just look up your local big cat research group and get involved mate, I,m 54 years old with a neurological back problem that gives me hell, I walk between twenty and thirty miles a week with my dogs changing sd cards in trail cameras, I finish my walk in a lovely little country pub and have a nice pint of thatchers traditional with a slice of orange , I,m usually met by the local lurcherman that's always sat there dog under the table but never seems to go anywere, he says seen any big cats this week and has a little giggle with his crownies, I always reply no not this week, but if I did have photos or had seen one with my own eyes why would I tell matey boy he,s happy sitting there wallowing in the knowledge he must be right as he,d never seen one though he only goes out once a month with his noisey gang driving round in a four by four, it's a scenario that plays out most weeks for me mate but I still don't feel the need to produce any evidence it's a quiz I needed to solve for myself and I,m more than happy with my findings so far, for me I have put the matter beyond any doubt

[jiggy 3,207]

In Africa it was near impossible to release hand reared cubs into safari parks themeing with game. Without learning hunting skills from its mother an escaped cat would be clueless and quickly starve to death or else have to become a Mankiller or at least take livestock regularly which would leave evidence. If it defeats those odds then what is the chances of meeting up with another cat that has defied the odds and mate with it. If there is a litter of fox cubs in an area the hungry vixen would cause mayhem to poultry and lambs to feed them and quickly run in to trouble. 2 big cats and 4 half grown cubs would take some feeding and if they are established all over Britain then they certainly keep low key. I've no doubt an odd cat escaped over the years and might be knocking around for a few months before perishing but to establish breeding pockets all over the country is hard to swallow.

[Greyman 25,294]

 

 

Come on, I know which kid you're on about. It was obvious he was lying, if a Leopard scratched him it would have ripped half his face off.

 

so that makes zero attacks then, even less reason to protect our children, but when tomo the revenant gets one in his sights and fails to kill it in one shot we may still get our first human attacked, if you look back on this thread and how it deteriorates as soon as the big cat saga raises its head can you honestly wonder why people that have seen or have footage of these creatures just clam up and keep it to themselves or share it among small groups of likeminded people that are all in the same boat,

no,,,if i had footage i would show everybody,,,it would be streight on youtube

look at the shit people that do post on YouTube recieve not worth it

[Greyman 25,294]

In Africa it was near impossible to release hand reared cubs into safari parks themeing with game. Without learning hunting skills from its mother an escaped cat would be clueless and quickly starve to death or else have to become a Mankiller or at least take livestock regularly which would leave evidence. If it defeats those odds then what is the chances of meeting up with another cat that has defied the odds and mate with it. If there is a litter of fox cubs in an area the hungry vixen would cause mayhem to poultry and lambs to feed them and quickly run in to trouble. 2 big cats and 4 half grown cubs would take some feeding and if they are established all over Britain then they certainly keep low key. I've no doubt an odd cat escaped over the years and might be knocking around for a few months before perishing but to establish breeding pockets all over the country is hard to swallow.

just look at what happened on Bodmin moor and exmoor in the early 80s they were losing so many sheep the army were called in they did see a black cat and opened fire but failed to kill it now with the explosion in deer and the animals adapting to there environment they have no need to kill sheep though a few are killed by large carnivores each year

[Haiddheliwr 1,911]

 

 

 

Come on, I know which kid you're on about. It was obvious he was lying, if a Leopard scratched him it would have ripped half his face off.

 

so that makes zero attacks then, even less reason to protect our children, but when tomo the revenant gets one in his sights and fails to kill it in one shot we may still get our first human attacked, if you look back on this thread and how it deteriorates as soon as the big cat saga raises its head can you honestly wonder why people that have seen or have footage of these creatures just clam up and keep it to themselves or share it among small groups of likeminded people that are all in the same boat,

no,,,if i had footage i would show everybody,,,it would be streight on youtube

look at the shit people that do post on YouTube recieve not worth it

Exactly!

[jiggy 3,207]

 

In Africa it was near impossible to release hand reared cubs into safari parks themeing with game. Without learning hunting skills from its mother an escaped cat would be clueless and quickly starve to death or else have to become a Mankiller or at least take livestock regularly which would leave evidence. If it defeats those odds then what is the chances of meeting up with another cat that has defied the odds and mate with it. If there is a litter of fox cubs in an area the hungry vixen would cause mayhem to poultry and lambs to feed them and quickly run in to trouble. 2 big cats and 4 half grown cubs would take some feeding and if they are established all over Britain then they certainly keep low key. I've no doubt an odd cat escaped over the years and might be knocking around for a few months before perishing but to establish breeding pockets all over the country is hard to swallow.

just look at what happened on Bodmin moor and exmoor in the early 80s they were losing so many sheep the army were called in they did see a black cat and opened fire but failed to kill it now with the explosion in deer and the animals adapting to there environment they have no need to kill sheep though a few are killed by large carnivores each year

any Siberian tigers ever spotted?They might handle the climate and lower temperature and would have no problem taking cattle.It's usually only panthers talked about.

[Greyman 25,294]

Genuine questions to the believers cause I find this topic very interesting .

how many big cats do you believe are wild in Britain

We're do you believe they originally came from eg circuses,pets

I think there has been a small population here since way back,by sailors ,circuses and private zoos, Lynx possibly forever but with the introduction of the dangerous animals act in the seventies possibly hundreds of unwanted cats were turned loose one thing that has been reported to the group I am involved with is from keepers on estates that were told to release them in places like the Cotswolds and other remote spots, coming upto date I think the increase in the deer population has led to several very successful years for the cats and there offspring, there are usually a few reports at this time of year of people seeing more than one cat together this makes us think it's adult and juvenile as they are very solitary for most of there life, I would not like to put a number on it but there are several county's in England with quite strong and growing populations, and through the research there are about 2000 reported sightings a year though the majority turn out to be false but not all as with the picture I started this with all these sightings will be followed up by people who will examine the scene put life size models in the spot and carry out photo analysis a handful every year are proven without doubt and I think the one above will be one of them , I am also fully aware i am in a smal minority and it's easier to mock than believe, but for most people involved in it they have had a personal experience and wanted to find out more about what they know they have encountered, some people have been gathering evidence for twenty or thirty years, it's not just about a photo of a cat itself, it's finding footprints ,scratch marks on trees and territorial markings also fresh stripped out kills can be quite conclusive if you strip the fur back from the neck and face areas you can find teeth marks were the animal has been choked to death and dental marks on bones are quite good, it's another level up from sticking a ferret down a hole and I go for long periods of time without finding anything at all over a year sometimes but the little glimmers I do find let me know I,m on the right trail, I'd only be sat around getting fat and old if I did,nt do it so why not

[Greyman 25,294]

 

 

In Africa it was near impossible to release hand reared cubs into safari parks themeing with game. Without learning hunting skills from its mother an escaped cat would be clueless and quickly starve to death or else have to become a Mankiller or at least take livestock regularly which would leave evidence. If it defeats those odds then what is the chances of meeting up with another cat that has defied the odds and mate with it. If there is a litter of fox cubs in an area the hungry vixen would cause mayhem to poultry and lambs to feed them and quickly run in to trouble. 2 big cats and 4 half grown cubs would take some feeding and if they are established all over Britain then they certainly keep low key. I've no doubt an odd cat escaped over the years and might be knocking around for a few months before perishing but to establish breeding pockets all over the country is hard to swallow.

just look at what happened on Bodmin moor and exmoor in the early 80s they were losing so many sheep the army were called in they did see a black cat and opened fire but failed to kill it now with the explosion in deer and the animals adapting to there environment they have no need to kill sheep though a few are killed by large carnivores each year

any Siberian tigers ever spotted?They might handle the climate and lower temperature and would have no problem taking cattle.It's usually only panthers talked about.

Lynx,s seem to be the main other one, I have heard of the odd exotic jungle cat type being spotted but not in any numbers to support a population, have a look on the beast watch website they put up a list of every exotic animal report in the country and it contains everything you could possibly imagine, lots of it are bollacks but things like wallaby,s are in such high numbers there must be some truth in it, one last point how many people see a red squirrel, otter,pine Martin,stoat,weasel, water vole not a massive percentage of the population but we all believe without any doubt they excist it just takes someone else to show us

[mackem 23,831]

British big cat attack.........

[mackem 23,831]

Indian big cat attack............

[gnasher16 29,664]

 

Genuine questions to the believers cause I find this topic very interesting .

how many big cats do you believe are wild in Britain

We're do you believe they originally came from eg circuses,pets

I think there has been a small population here since way back,by sailors ,circuses and private zoos, Lynx possibly forever but with the introduction of the dangerous animals act in the seventies possibly hundreds of unwanted cats were turned loose one thing that has been reported to the group I am involved with is from keepers on estates that were told to release them in places like the Cotswolds and other remote spots, coming upto date I think the increase in the deer population has led to several very successful years for the cats and there offspring, there are usually a few reports at this time of year of people seeing more than one cat together this makes us think it's adult and juvenile as they are very solitary for most of there life, I would not like to put a number on it but there are several county's in England with quite strong and growing populations, and through the research there are about 2000 reported sightings a year though the majority turn out to be false but not all as with the picture I started this with all these sightings will be followed up by people who will examine the scene put life size models in the spot and carry out photo analysis a handful every year are proven without doubt and I think the one above will be one of them , I am also fully aware i am in a smal minority and it's easier to mock than believe, but for most people involved in it they have had a personal experience and wanted to find out more about what they know they have encountered, some people have been gathering evidence for twenty or thirty years, it's not just about a photo of a cat itself, it's finding footprints ,scratch marks on trees and territorial markings also fresh stripped out kills can be quite conclusive if you strip the fur back from the neck and face areas you can find teeth marks were the animal has been choked to death and dental marks on bones are quite good, it's another level up from sticking a ferret down a hole and I go for long periods of time without finding anything at all over a year sometimes but the little glimmers I do find let me know I,m on the right trail, I'd only be sat around getting fat and old if I did,nt do it so why not

 

For someone unwilling to share their evidence with the everyday man you are certainly very vocal on the subject.......this " im not telling " attitude all seems a bit convenient to me.

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe we will finally get to see confirmation of Big Cats roaming the UK......

should have just asked this one has appeared in the local press this week taken on the quantocks in Somerset, filmed on an iPhone, pretty cool

Out of all the pics I've ever seen this really does look like a Panther, I'm certain of it. Still doesn't mean it's legitimate though.

go onto YouTube and type in bigcat Britain part 2 it's about a nine minute film if you watch it to the end you will understand why many people, will not reveal what they know and what they have seen and what they have pictures of, this picture was taken by a woman out with here daughter for a walk she was blown away by what she saw and went to the papers so the photo is now out there and can't do anymore harm by me reproducing it for you, until the government admit the extent of there knowledge and what they will do if they ever admit it a veil of secrecy will remain over the subject, but the truth is there if you have the time and enthusiasm to go and find it most people that do, feel a little protective about what they have seen and keep quiet,

I think it would be very irresponsible for someone to keep it to themselves if they spotted a Big Cat out on a walk, imagine if that animal killed a child out playing.

mate they have been in our country for many years and numbers are increasing no one has ever been attacked by one, there is a young man from Wales that made the news many years ago when he tried to grab one by mistake and it scratched him down his face before it ran off, but other than that they definately don't want anything to do with humans, have you watched the video yet? also your sensationalist reply that we need to protect our children from this man eating beast is another reason people don't want to tell you what they know or have seen, they just want to leave the animals be and see were we end up,another thing is even if I were to produce the ultimate photo I would be accused of Photoshopping or picture cropping or any other reason people could think of to discredit me so why bother, your local police have loads of video evidence from cctv, but choose not to share it many police forces have picked up and disposed of dead bodies from the roadside but choose not to tell you, so I guess the people just are,nt ready for the truth yet

Watched it. Still don't believe it.

and that's the excact reason I have no inclination to attempt to prove anything to anyone but myself, as they say ignorance is bliss

No problem that you believe that they are here mate. If that makes you feel better then no skin of my back....??

State of the art technology and thousands of people out stalking, lamping or just walking can't get one decent picture that doesn't sound right to me. Happy to eat my words when the 'evidence' is put infront of me...??

[DogMan85 722]

British big cat attack.........

That's the one, if anyone believes a Leopard did that then I believe in Santa Claus...... ???

[Daniel cain 42,898]

I know that kid from trellech-lives next door to my mate.atb dc

[DogMan85 722]

I know that kid from trellech-lives next door to my mate.atb dc

I hope those Leopard scratches have healed. ?

Edited April 18, 2017 by DogMan85