Flacko 1,732 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 On paper aka brindle that is a tuff fight to come back to, Haye could have been a great but didn't want it enough imo, Flacko 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 Haye will win pretty comfortably IMO but as usual he'll be lacking when the chips are down... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I think haye had the potential to clean the klitchkos and do well for himself, but he just wasnt hungry enough. I do get that you cant win a fight with a broken toe, but he should have postponed it instead of taking the cheque. If he goes in with the right mindset he will wipe the floor with most of the division. Regarding aj, he is miles away from being ready to fight haye but tyson haye would be a good match up. After all the slagging Haye has had since the Wlad fight over his big toe issue I think it could make him more focused and hungrier this time around. Dont get me wrong Haye is a good fighter and acheived a lot but I think he still never gave it 100% and I was a big fan of Haye but I think he has a point to prove this time with all the nockers since the Wlad fight. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Haye will blow this guy out to make a statement let's not forget he was handpicked and not really any good atall he lost to someone with something like 14 wins 30 losses Good boxer tho David but once he gets his big fight with aj he's gone into the sunset Not really any good at all?...De Mori has won 30... lost 1... drawn 2...i think thats decent opposition for a come back fight after a 3 year lay off Who's he beat ? Load of Australian nobodies 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
runem 533 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Not took much notice of Haye,the guy talks the talk and limps the walk............ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,617 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's gonna be interesting, Haye is a gifted fighter for sure but he's never had the heart for me so... Do you really believe that Bosun ?.....i think it was his first world title fight against the Frenchman i forget his name now but i remember him getting off the canvas to stop him he was also very honest in his defeat to Carl Thompson so i dont think he lacks heart....i just think some fighters are too intelligent for their own good !....Haye is a knowledgeable,astute and articulate man i think a fighter like him can often let his head rule his heart......us thick fuckers convince ourself we can beat anyone,its a desired trait to feel unbeatable but its not realistic......i think Haye is just a realist he knows deep down he is simply not big enough for this division and is too intelligent to convince himself otherwise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's gonna be interesting, Haye is a gifted fighter for sure but he's never had the heart for me so... Do you really believe that Bosun ?.....i think it was his first world title fight against the Frenchman i forget his name now but i remember him getting off the canvas to stop him he was also very honest in his defeat to Carl Thompson so i dont think he lacks heart....i just think some fighters are too intelligent for their own good !....Haye is a knowledgeable,astute and articulate man i think a fighter like him can often let his head rule his heart......us thick fuckers convince ourself we can beat anyone,its a desired trait to feel unbeatable but its not realistic......i think Haye is just a realist he knows deep down he is simply not big enough for this division and is too intelligent to convince himself otherwise. Gnash, you have just wrote what i couldn't. Writing 'heart' or the lack of it was simplifying what you have put much better, where his head rules his heart. And though i do believe Haye see's that the divison is booming with a new British champion but i dont see him as that fighter that got up off the canvas to win anymore... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) It's gonna be interesting, Haye is a gifted fighter for sure but he's never had the heart for me so... Do you really believe that Bosun ?.....i think it was his first world title fight against the Frenchman i forget his name now but i remember him getting off the canvas to stop him he was also very honest in his defeat to Carl Thompson so i dont think he lacks heart....i just think some fighters are too intelligent for their own good !....Haye is a knowledgeable,astute and articulate man i think a fighter like him can often let his head rule his heart......us thick fuckers convince ourself we can beat anyone,its a desired trait to feel unbeatable but its not realistic......i think Haye is just a realist he knows deep down he is simply not big enough for this division and is too intelligent to convince himself otherwise. Plus the heavyweight division is where the money is. Haye is definitely not big enough for the division really, but hell, he does well in it. I think we will be able to better judge AJ and Fury when and if they both fight Haye. Too small or not, Haye has been the best british heavyweight since Lewis imo. I suspect both Fury and AJ will do their best to avoid him-he's too risky an opponent for them. Edited January 15, 2016 by jukel123 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,617 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 By nature he isnt even a 15 stone fighter....when he went in the jungle program the other year he couldnt hold weight on because he wasnt training/eating correctly and so went down to nothing he is the type of guy that has to constantly work to hold the weight on whereas the true heavyweights have to work to keep the weight off ! Its a shame because in terms of distance timing and pure punch delivery he has the beating of all of them but they are simply too big for him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,116 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 It's gonna be interesting, Haye is a gifted fighter for sure but he's never had the heart for me so... Do you really believe that Bosun ?.....i think it was his first world title fight against the Frenchman i forget his name now but i remember him getting off the canvas to stop him he was also very honest in his defeat to Carl Thompson so i dont think he lacks heart....i just think some fighters are too intelligent for their own good !....Haye is a knowledgeable,astute and articulate man i think a fighter like him can often let his head rule his heart......us thick fuckers convince ourself we can beat anyone,its a desired trait to feel unbeatable but its not realistic......i think Haye is just a realist he knows deep down he is simply not big enough for this division and is too intelligent to convince himself otherwise. mormec was the frenchmans name, went into his backyard to do it as well....i think people often forget haye held most the cruiser weight belts.....three years is a long time out, and without his old trainer will be interesting to see how he is... Yokel 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,617 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) mormec was the frenchmans name, went into his backyard to do it as well....i think people often forget haye held most the cruiser weight belts.....three years is a long time out, and without his old trainer will be interesting to see how he is... Yokel I actually think the biggest fight out there for Haye ( world title wise ) will be if Tony Bellew can pick up a cruiserweight belt.......im pretty sure Haye could still do cruiserweight with ease and id fancy him to iron Bellew right out....but with the right promotion it would be a big money fight.............but again,it all depends what he has left he hasnt got a lot of miles on the clock and he looks after himself so i dont see any reason he wont be back at least close to his best. Edited January 15, 2016 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,116 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) think if he'd have stayed at cruiser he was unbeatable, never brought into he was struggling to make the weight....chasing bigger money, nowt wrong with that in my eyes, and i think he had the beating of most at heavy weight as well. can't work out if he's skint or he's had a good look at the current opposition and thought, i can have some of that... yokel Edited January 16, 2016 by YOKEL 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ryaldinhio 4,125 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I agree with most of the comments on here. Haye is a cruiser weight and would demolish bellew. He doesnt have the power for the heavyweight division but is quick enough to balance that out. I think Fury will avoid him regardless of money, lets face it Haye isnt going to bring the biggest purse for him. I think he would test AJ and it would be interesting but why would AJ take the fight? Haye has nothing to lose and AJ everything. I dont think Haye would beat wilder but again I dont think he will be offered the chance. at the end of the day he has been out of the division to long to be looking at these guys. He will win this fight tomorrow then call all of the top guys out and retire with the ego of no-one dare take on david haye, when actually no one is bother by him. he better going into cruiser 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,587 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I agree with most of the comments on here. Haye is a cruiser weight and would demolish bellew. He doesnt have the power for the heavyweight division but is quick enough to balance that out. I think Fury will avoid him regardless of money, lets face it Haye isnt going to bring the biggest purse for him. I think he would test AJ and it would be interesting but why would AJ take the fight? Haye has nothing to lose and AJ everything. I dont think Haye would beat wilder but again I dont think he will be offered the chance. at the end of the day he has been out of the division to long to be looking at these guys. He will win this fight tomorrow then call all of the top guys out and retire with the ego of no-one dare take on david haye, when actually no one is bother by him. he better going into cruiser fair point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
logan 447 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 So I hear the bookies have the other lad to win and there not often rong, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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