Yes it's the same birds, they have been treated a couple of times by the vet, you can never get rid of it once you have it, all you are able to do is treat the symptoms and keep them healthy, they can go a year or more with no problems, or can have it every month, no way of knowing why or when, but when they are ok they are perfect, that's the reason I was surprised the vets would not prescribe it again without seeing the birds, last time I had to educate the vet on my co, they had to google it ! But now they know it will always keep coming back, they know I have it, why won't they prescribe i