The rws z longs are the most accurate I've tried of these 29/30 grain reduced velocity loads. They have around a two inch drop at fifty yards with a sixty yard zero for sk subs. I've tried the cci quiets, found them accurate as well, but slower and heavier so they have a more loopy trajectory. The .22 shorts were faster and didn't seem to drop any lower at fifty yards than standard subs at sixty yards but accuracy wasn't good enough at that range.