i commend you max on your loyalty [im a sunderland fan ][jarrow] but going on about crowds etc wont take away the shite thats being played for last few seasons -if we are relegated [probability] our crowds will plummet to 20,000 per game and only pick up if we look like gaining promotion whereas our rivals [scumcastle] will fill the ground to near capacity regardless of their position -i see harrowing times ahead for safc- billy