Don't agree with you mate, what happens if you have a dog with "no mouth"? What I mean is it will chase, has plenty of speed to get up to it's quarry then sits behind it making no effort to pick it up. I had one like that recently, she seen plenty both daytime and on the lamp and the only time she caught was when a rabbit etc made a mistake and ran into a fence or suchlike. Now this bitch chased hundreds of rabbits yet she only caught 30 odd, the last time I took her lamping my son came with me and I can remember him asking me why the bitch wasn't making any attempt at mouthing/striking the