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The facts are that we may have that luxury to pick and choose now,a dog that could work locations like that was commonplace in the past yet is like hens teeth now,terriers and their owners where at hand to deal with such situations in the past,they rarely are now,thus the age of the working terrier and owner is far poorer for it now.Ive just retired a red bitch that could be entered anywhere,after a few near misses in the last few years im reluctant to enter terriers in the same places as we,ve had to many nearly episodes,yet my sapling will learn or be lost,my lad refuses to take the chance w
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Good Lurcher Training Book Recommendations
morton replied to Blueboybilly's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Throw the books in the bin and the time spent reading would be better spent on grass,the best lessons learnt are by mistakes we make whilst learning.A better option still is to spend a while in the field with somebody more experienced,they will learn you more in an hour than a year in a library could. -
I owned a track bitch that retrieved rabbits from day one,it took me 6 months to get her jumping with ease,the amount of times she pursued to a gate or fence and waited for it to open,she never retrieved an hare and often let them go when they baby wailed.
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24.5 with a young Lakey,a week later we had her in a cat trap set in the only entrance.
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the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Many a place a terrier was entered a collar was as useful as a chocolate ashtray,the olde lads worked these spots for many generations,the majority of modern terrierfolk pass them by,losing a terrier is something olde and new often have in common.a collar is always a benefit and never a hindrance. Many deads cant be prevented by reducing the time taken to find a dog, or even having the ability to find it at all, as there are many places that you cant find without a collar. A collar is the salvation of average terriers
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the old fella would soon look a knobhead if the dog was lost to ground. Many a place a terrier was entered a collar was as useful as a chocolate ashtray,the olde lads worked these spots for many generations,the majority of modern terrierfolk pass them by,losing a terrier is something olde and new often have in common.
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Thats why i went red Fell.
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I must be fortunate then as my Beddys are line bred and ive yet to produce an arse wipe.
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Id try and salvage something from the mutts,its the nugget owners that want the dull thud of a shovel to wake them from their stupid stupor.
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A greyhound bitch i owned retrieved full grown rabbits to hand,they looked like they had been through a mincer,she ate any bunny half grown,in seconds. Your right about the bunnys been through a mincer, a mate had one she was an ex track dog and at 1st was a liability with small dogs but we put the time and she came good. She would dispatch Fox with ease and would catch hare as good as any lurcher her prey drive was eminence. Rabbits she struggled with would always run on top of them but she did catch them eventually. Always fancied a pup to bring in as a lurcher One of the best f
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A greyhound bitch i owned retrieved full grown rabbits to hand,they looked like they had been through a mincer,she ate any bunny half grown,in seconds.
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Ive worked a few,the reason for lurchers is they are a better working option.Greyhounds lack stamina and can never put a shift in,otherwise they are over your shoulders being carried home.
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Then you must walk past an awful lot of rabbits,you can only shoot what is in range or sight,the hawk hunts much the same and a lurcher,an hawk,a ferret or a gun cannot shift a bunny from many of its places of residence,a bushing terrier can work a bramble bank and put many of these scutters available to a gun,an hawk or even a lurcher,why not use the gun,hawk or lurcher for ratting?they often prove effective.
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The best fox working terrier i ever owned was a Beddy,her versatility at other tasks made her the most useful hunting dog ive ever had in the kennel,ive done a little.Another mutt worth her weight in gold,especially in rocks that the majority of terrierfolk would never entertain,was a red Fell,i have 3 generations of progeny bred from them that are more than useful,their Beddy father was as good and produces grafters,their Beddy grandmother i mentioned earlier.It took me a while to get to where i am at now and can say with a little honest pride that the 2 Beddy hybrids my lad is working now wi
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Best post yet.
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That terrier must have Beddy in the mix to enter water and retrieve like that Mik.
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Hard on their dogs and hard on their quarry,id concur with that,their mutts welfare was higher on the agenda than most today,they could not afford the luxury of replacing a neglected dog and they possibly were less restricted with sentiment,sentiment made for piss poor breeding and hunting practice.
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90% failure rate?,Thats the average Beddy breeding.The little i know about terriers is you would have to be a total nugget to get lumbered with a 90% failure rate,alas the average breeder of such thrives on nuggets and their dollar.
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If you need to produce better than what you had,id not breed from them.I know some of the old lads are bullshitting romantics yet many i met i learnt an awful lot from,possibly why im a bullshitting romantic.I cannot believe nearly everybody on here as never had honest stewardship from an elder and wished to own a kennel of dogs like many of them owned,i was and am still in awe of the expertise and dogmanship and skills,mainly lost now,that many of our elders possessed.The facts are that many of the places the olde lads worked are left alone now because the dogs and expertise to work them is l
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,That's the thing about the question, no disrespect to the original poster, but there is no standard for terrier work. If a lads standard is ratting there's a good chance he'll breed plenty of good terriers,,,,to his standard. If a man likes a terrier that'll bolt a fox but not stay, then he's got a good chance of finding a good one too. If a lad is lucky enough to live in a country where he can legally dig Badger's then he might have to go through a few before finding the one he wants.......................unless doubling or trebling them up is acceptable to him. We have to trust the man
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It will be like a ghost town,the fecking Poles are all over here.
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I believe you mean for any man that wants 50 rabbits a night,or a season,it would not suit me,or others perhaps.Again thats why i love the versatility of the lurcher and respect the hunters versatile hunting lifestyle.
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I know of lads that use their terriers more in a month than many do in a season,who has the best grafters?,impossible to answer,plus i find that terriers that seldom need digging to often do more terrier work.
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I owned a lurcher for lurcherwork and a terrier for terrierwork,at times i only had 1 of each and they got more than 1,2,3 or 4 jobs done,i can understand a specialist dog bred for a specific purpose,yet many a mutt was bred with versatility in mind and they had to master all aspects of that versatility and master them well."different dogs for different tasks" is a truism that ive little in common with,maybe perhaps because i never needed an income from the mutts Phil.
