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But to judge and compare fitness alone you have to make everything else equal......no Hatton would not of stood a chance with either of those gents.....that doesnt mean he wasnt at a higher physical peak of conditioning though.
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Speak with a reasonably succesful trainer of a certain age who has trained fighters through the generations and ask them if fighters today are physically fitter......all else being equal ( skills/ability etc ) .....The thing we do when comparing like this is we look at the highest level to compare......but if you take the average journeyman pro of today and compare fitness levels to the average journeyman pro of even only 30 years ago it is like chalk and cheese.......apart from the obvious nutrition side of things,think of things like sponsorship......years ago pro fighters were not sponsor
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Good shout that......Foreman v Lyle takes some beating at heavyweight as well.
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Made the big mistake of letting ego get in the way of sense.......now you know why a figher has his corner count for him and gets up on 8
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Cant say as i watched much of it but seemed to be well organised and well supported.....well in the Jocks
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That was the only music ive ever seen live must of been either 91 or 92 at Finsbury Park i remember that Morrisey geezer was on first he wrapped himself in a union jack and got pelted with coins and coke cans it was quite funny....not my cuppa tea all that but got talked into it that day.......cant beat a bit of Madness though
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Tuffty your close by me you could of come and taken whatever you liked from my youngsters if breeding had gone to plan but i only produced 4 chicks all season and my mate took them to start him off......i,ll be paying more attention next time round so if you,re still needing some then your welcome to help yourself. Good that you,ve taken the plunge again anyway
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Theres a very interesting documentary the yanks did on the fight and what was going through each fighters mind second by second......i cant remember what its called now but if you can find it somewhere its a really great watch. For the sheer magnitude of the event its the greatest fight ive seen in my lifetime.......still prefer the Reg Gutteridge commentary though
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Dont hold back mate ..........Harsh as you word things......i agree with pretty much all of it .............apart from the last line.
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Only at heavyweight in my opinion. I'd say definitely at heavy,but also to varying degrees at every weight. Outside of heavy modern fighters on top of that have much better speed and conditioning. You use Calzaghe as an example but even a fighter like Hatton would have had an unheard of work rate. Which of Wlad's challengers do you think had better speed and conditioning than say Ali's challengers? Do you think Hatton's work rate is higher than Henry Armstrong's ,[ retired in1945,] or Beau Jacks,[ retired in 1955?] And those guys were fighting an extra 3 rounds. Armstrong
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But when was boxing any different ?.......when the mafia were dictating who became champions and what rounds they went down in did we think one day people would be calling them the good old days !!......Today you have Frank Warren and Eddie Hearn in uk......in my day you had Terry Lawless/Mickey Duff/Mike Barrat/Jarvis Astaire/Harry Levene and thats just in London...............Are Golden Boy any different to Arum or Don King ? Folk talk like boxing never used to be about money
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I dont like cricket for a thousand and one reasons.............so guess what......i dont watch or follow it.......it really is that simple. The numbers game tells its own story regarding popularity....that doesnt mean YOU have to like it.
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For folk who have been around the game a while or even had an interest for long enough these things are really not that difficult to see.................sadly like any other walk of life you get people who have 5 minutes experience and become instant experts,the Fury scenario being the perfect example.
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Max mma is small compared to boxing and always will be..........name me an international superstar from the world of mma anywhere near on par with Floyd Mayweather ?.....name me an mma fighter earning anywhere near the money Mayweather earns.....mma can,t break into mainstream tv i actually think its reached its peak and is on the slide.................the other month Mayweather v Canello grossed 200 mill......Floyd Mayweather has earned 400 mill IN THE RING.......mma,s highest earner is i believe BJ Penn who earned 20 mill in the ring.......this money comes from somewhere....its self explanna
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Stone the crows who gives a f**k if we havent got our own personalised song to sing before a sporting occasion id rather win the war than the singsong before hand !
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Its no different to what it ever was Max.......why do you want to see Joshua fighting top opponents already he,s a 4 fight novice !.................young fighters records were always padded out with learning fights its nothing new................what is new is these young prospects are now in the public spotlight from day 1. Nigel Benn never took a punch for the first 17/18 fights of his career !.....Neither did Mike Tyson.........but then neither of them were Olympians......nobody has a problem with young pros getting established and then making their way in the game.....what i have a pro
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I meant more in terms of selling a fighter to the public..................an Olympic gold is almost as important as a world title these days when you look at the career of Harrison as an example.
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Come on Socks even you must have a social life........ sitting outside a nice pub in a great atmosphere,everyone acting friendly with a smile on their face,treacles walking about with skirts up their scotches,nice romantic walks with the ol woman,watching the kids playing about on the beech..................obviously the seasonal things like hunting/footie etc etc keep us more occupied in winter........but normal everyday relaxed living surely even you must enjoy it....................your just too hard for your own good you are
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Just go,s to show what a load of old bollocks amateur boxing is really doesnt it ......yet in some ways in this day and age the amateurs is a bigger money earning potential than the pros !!!
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Been a blindin summer so far hope it carries on right into Sept....might try and squeeze another holiday in but dont need to if it stays like this its been lovely sitting out in the garden as it cools down in the evening......ive even been fishing and i cant stand that,not to mention barbeques !.....Dread the thought of another dark depressing winter round the corner.
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100 % agree......lets give something for dog wardens to do instead of sitting at the side of the road eating sandwiches...........similar to the dvla have some central licensing body,make a licence/chip mandatory then if caught with a dog with no license/chip lose the dog and fined/banned as appropriate ! Something will have to be done to clean this mess up sooner or later i think a database on the same lines as cars sounds pretty good....wouldnt effect normal everyday dog owners so wheres the problem.
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Can you really see the average bad boy off the estate walking his spikey collared red nose pit bull into the local dog training classes ? what is this education folk speak of ? what does it involve ?............do you seriously think these idiots dont know what most normal folk are saying,of course they do thats part of the attraction its the notoriety that they thrive on what makes you think they are suddenly going to get all sensible !
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Only at heavyweight in my opinion. Nicolai Valuev is the tallest and heaviest heavyweight champion he is also one of, if not the worst. Jack Dempsey once sparred with a boxer named Big Ben Wray he was 7'22 300lbs, Dempsey hit him on the chin and broke his jaw in two places with one punch.We know what he did to Jess Willard who outweighed him by58lbs and was 6" taller with an 85" reach .Louis regularly kod huge men ,Simon , B Baer,Carnera etc.Joe was 6'1.5"and at his best, around 200lbs. Bigger does not necessarily mean better. I was talking in terms of divisions not
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Only at heavyweight in my opinion. I'd say definitely at heavy,but also to varying degrees at every weight. Outside of heavy modern fighters on top of that have much better speed and conditioning. You use Calzaghe as an example but even a fighter like Hatton would have had an unheard of work rate. Which of Wlad's challengers do you think had better speed and conditioning than say Ali's challengers? Do you think Hatton's work rate is higher than Henry Armstrong's ,[ retired in1945,] or Beau Jacks,[ retired in 1955?] And those guys were fighting an extra 3 rounds. Armstrong
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Only at heavyweight in my opinion. Nicolai Valuev is the tallest and heaviest heavyweight champion he is also one of, if not the worst. Jack Dempsey once sparred with a boxer named Big Ben Wray he was 7'22 300lbs, Dempsey hit him on the chin and broke his jaw in two places with one punch.We know what he did to Jess Willard who outweighed him by58lbs and was 6" taller with an 85" reach .Louis regularly kod huge men ,Simon , B Baer,Carnera etc.Joe was 6'1.5"and at his best, around 200lbs. Bigger does not necessarily mean better. I was talking in terms of divisions not
