To be honest, these hmr’s are not as accurate as a .222 for example, so let’s not pretend they are. I’ve never seen a 100 yard half inch five shot group (like they show you in the magazines)from an hmr, even in still air. Neither have any of my shooting friends. All of whom can shoot ragged one hole groups with centrefires. I’ve put three in half inch on occasion, but never five. Maybe we don’t clamp our rifles down tight enough on a bench so that they can’t move, but then again, that’s not really shooting imo. Some believe the hype, but not me.