Yeah that's great mate, wasn't decrying Orange, there good bikes, mate of mine had a P1 years back, it rode really well? I was really just bigging up Marin tbh as they do offer a lifetime frame guarantee (to the original owner) as I use to live close to one the dealers and spent lots of time there, they even upgraded one frame when it cracked and that was about 10 years old, matey got a new frame that cost more than his original bike did. They said they have so few break that it's a great PR exercise.
Cheers, D.