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I genuinely think there are still way more of us than them, we're just not coming together or being properly represented.

The trouble is, those choices are usually like yours and mine which is to pack up and feck off while the going is good, leaving more and more of the dross to condense and concentrate, as a young man y

f**k me - them ol' Cockneys tan well in the summer

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6 hours ago, chartpolski said:

You have to ask why there wasn't one policeman who said " hold on ! This is absolute bollocks, sending six policemen to arrest an old soldier for re-tweeting an image that is only offensive to a tiny minority of people, who are constantly offended at everything ?".

And what the f**k is a "non-crime hate offence" ?

It sounds like something out of Orwell's 1984 or something by Kafka !

Cheers.

Sadly there are lots of these new hate laws and the police are obliged to act on any report. The laws are brought in by politicians via Parliament. These days you don't have to thump somebody to assault them. If they are in fear of your actions, and it is purely down to them, no guidelines, an assault has taken place and has to be investigated. Its the law.

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47 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

Sadly there are lots of these new hate laws and the police are obliged to act on any report. The laws are brought in by politicians via Parliament. These days you don't have to thump somebody to assault them. If they are in fear of your actions, and it is purely down to them, no guidelines, an assault has taken place and has to be investigated. Its the law.

this is beyond ?

NEWS.SKY.COM

Questions are being raised over the use of force against Donald Burgess at a care home, who died several weeks...

 

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1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

this is beyond ?

NEWS.SKY.COM

Questions are being raised over the use of force against Donald Burgess at a care home, who died several weeks...

 

 

22 minutes ago, socks said:

And he was in a wheel chair. 

Could they not have handled the old man without that force,disgraceful.

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10 hours ago, Daniel cain said:

this is beyond ?

NEWS.SKY.COM

Questions are being raised over the use of force against Donald Burgess at a care home, who died several weeks...

 

I agree. There was no threat of serious harm being done. He could have easily be contained until he ran out of steam. 

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20 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

I agree. There was no threat of serious harm being done. He could have easily be contained until he ran out of steam. 

I don't understand how a home full of 'care workers' couldn't talk down the old boy... someone there needs a good look in the mirror and I hope some sort of charges are brought...as for the 2 police officers...pepper spray,batons and a tazer are over the top...poor sod only had 1 leg?

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On 03/08/2022 at 21:14, DIDO.1 said:

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This just took me back to a punk song I heard many years ago - swatsticker eyes. You wouldn't be able to play that nowadays. There's no freedom of speech anymore. Few years back we had the police at my door " because my neighbours didn't like the card we put up in my window of voting for ukip " Said my neighbours were offended with it a just laughed an told them to jog on. Honest great Britain is no more..

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1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

I don't understand how a home full of 'care workers' couldn't talk down the old boy... someone there needs a good look in the mirror and I hope some sort of charges are brought...as for the 2 police officers...pepper spray,batons and a tazer are over the top...poor sod only had 1 leg?

The care home staff are usually unwilling to get 'hands on'.

We weren't there so we don't know the full story, but it should have been possible to contain him until he became more passive. Just moving some furniture around to pen him in ought to have been enough. I've been in a few situations where knives were used to threaten people and it is often possible to deal with them without gas, batons or Tasers. Each of those carries risks and can make the situation more difficult. Gas affects everybody including police officers so shouldn't be used indoors. Batons are as useful as a chocolate teapot and Tasers are the last resort before dogs and firearms. Tasers can cause all sorts of problems in many situations and surely cannot be justified in this case.

The bobbies will be judged according to protocols and if there was no immediate risk to anyone then they will be struggling to justify one, let alone three uses of force.

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2 hours ago, Daniel cain said:

I don't understand how a home full of 'care workers' couldn't talk down the old boy... someone there needs a good look in the mirror and I hope some sort of charges are brought...as for the 2 police officers...pepper spray,batons and a tazer are over the top...poor sod only had 1 leg?

Unbelievable mate just out of curiosity i would like to know the nationality of the care worker's in that home who thought they needed to call the police . My wife has worked in care for the last 35year and still does and has cared for people with different stages of dementia and even though she has suffered slight injuries has never seen the need to call the police in defusing a situation.

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2 hours ago, keepdiggin said:

Care homes are mostly full of Africans who abuse the people they are caring for

That will be an uncomfortable truth to some another issue is when foreign care staff are babbling on in their own language when tending to the people they are caring for.

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3 hours ago, keepdiggin said:

Care homes are mostly full of Africans who abuse the people they are caring for

Not round me they ain’t, it’s a proper job that pays proper wages and is staffed by proper people.

Its really nice to see ?

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32 minutes ago, WILF said:

Not round me they ain’t, it’s a proper job that pays proper wages and is staffed by proper people.

Its really nice to see ?

My Mum spent the last few months of her life in a care home and the staff were fantastic.  I had a call one day from the manager who apologetically explained that one of the staff had lost her  temper and sworn at my mum. I was  asked if l wanted the matter taken further.

My reaction was " ls that all. " Bearing in mind that poor mum had such bad dementia that you would've  thought she was possessed by demons and was violent with it, l think the staff were near candidates for sainthood. 

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