treefella 24 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Afternoon Guys/girls Had a bit of an issue with my lurcher over the weekend. Has been trained and absolutely trust worthy around sheep until Saturday, hopped over a fence into a field to see what was about. There were two sheep on their own, I didn't give it much thought as he is so good around them. Then they ran across the field, again didn't think much of it, until out of know where he went for them, I shouted at him and ended up pulling him off one of them. Luckily I got there before any real damage was done, he had just pulled it over, hadn't gone for the kill yet. Is he forever untrustworthy now, I'm gutted as I did a lot of work with stock training. Its shite as I never used to need to worry but all of a sudden he has lost all my trust around live stock Any tips for re-training him, he is 2yrs old but still a bit of a goofy pup at times. collie/deer/beddy/grey type mix, 27inchs and nearly 70lbs so not a small dog Cheers Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 1,976 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 On the upside you've got all summer now. I would get him around sheep as much as possible (at least once a week, preferably more). On a long line at first then maybe an e-collar. I'd use the e-collar on a low setting just to keep in touch so he never thinks you're far enough away to ignore. I've heard it said that if that doesn't work you should turn the collar up to 10, wait 'til he's right up the arse of a sheep and let him have it. 1 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 1,976 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Forgot to say, all through the process he should see sheep running away as well as standing still and should be recallable before the long line is removed and the e-collar put on. Quote Link to post
ijf 109 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Cut 2 ft off your garden hose 1 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 12,150 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ijf said: Cut 2 ft off your garden hose 2 Edited February 21 by Black neck Lame as feck Quote Link to post
Wideboy 2,890 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 I hope you gave him a bit of a slap afterwards. You say you have him stock trained, you don’t. You need to get the dog out and see sheep as much as possible, in every situation. Seeing them standing in a field is not enough. When training dogs should see them running away from them too. As they think it’s “on” when it’s a moving object. Plus they smell lovely to dogs too. There are some breeds that are very hard to stock train, more towards the terriers. 1 Quote Link to post
baker boy 9,144 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, ijf said: Cut 2 ft off your garden hose Too soft mate, gotta be the Alkathene 2 Quote Link to post
NE_Monkey 159 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Shit happens, retrain, crack on. Speaking from no experience with stock taking a dog lol, I just avoid sheep fields. Atb 2 Quote Link to post
Smashing reds 323 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Training collar should do the trick, let him out to the sheep if runs after the sheep wait until he's up behind them and stick him to the ground with the collar 4 Quote Link to post
iworkwhippets 10,442 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 wrong. get the bugger amongst sheep and other livestock, as soon as my pups were able go out in the field, straight away introduced to livestock , as soon as the pup clocked em, a sharp tug on the lead with a firm word NO, you cant avoid sheep fields we a working do, as for tuther poster, no godd giving ya dog a slap afterwards, gotta catch the bugger doing it 8 Quote Link to post
chartpolski 12,932 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Start again from scratch would be my advice. If not, there are only two options; avoid sheep or pts. Sheep worriers are a liability. Hope it works out for you. Cheers. 4 Quote Link to post
Runner96 286 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Considering the dog had to be pulled of the sheep, I’m sure a firm hand would have been more than appropriate regarding to (timing) of the telling off. 11 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said: wrong. get the bugger amongst sheep and other livestock, as soon as my pups were able go out in the field, straight away introduced to livestock , as soon as the pup clocked em, a sharp tug on the lead with a firm word NO, you cant avoid sheep fields we a working do, as for tuther poster, no godd giving ya dog a slap afterwards, gotta catch the bugger doing it Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 9,974 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 You need to message a member called mushroom for advice hes expert on this sort of thing . 2 Quote Link to post
Black neck 12,150 Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, Smashing reds said: Training collar should do the trick, let him out to the sheep if runs after the sheep wait until he's up behind them and stick him to the ground with the collar Maybe maybe not Quote Link to post
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