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3 minutes ago, Arry said:

Well she did pull the rug from under David Davis and Dominic Raab when they started to play hard ball with them.

Having said that you can just imagine how much piss they will take out of us if go snivelling back.

Lets not forget those MP's that voted every thing down so they can engineer a no Brexit, the treacherous b*****ds.

Cheers Arry

Do you think the people have it in them to rise up if the government appease the minorities and cancel brexit? 

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Correct. Of those nine countries some receive more back in trade within the EU than they  put in.  When they hand the dosh over to Brussels and Brussels then divvies it out to the poorer EU count

If you want to see hatred look at the political left. From antifa to momentum to unite against hate.  We arnt full of hate we are just pissed off.  Being against giving power to the eu isn't

What the latest news has demonstrated is that May's policy of appeasement to the EU was similar to Chamberlain's appeasement towards Hitler in the 1930's. By standing up to the EU and removing any hop

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2 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Do you think the people have it in them to rise up if the government appease the minorities and cancel brexit? 

A few mate but most will roll over I think, shame! all seems so spineless these days. Days like the miner strikes and the poll tax riots etc are gone, we should be more like the French. Its one thing I admire them if they don't like some thing they come out block the roads etc or riot. Quite protest gets you nowhere.

Cheers Arry

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2 hours ago, Blackbriar said:

DUP said they wouldn't support May's deal, but WOULD support her in a confidence motion, but I guess the proviso is that the deal would have been voted down by that point ?

Aye if the bill somehow passed the DUP would definitely vote no confidence in May, hell I wouldn't be suprised if they called the vote themselves! But even if it's voted down their support in a confidence vote isn't guaranteed especially after she's tried to play them with this renegotiation that hasn't changed anything regarding the backstop. May is foolish if she thinks the DUP are so scared of a Labour government that they'll support her regardless of what she does.

We'll know which way they're leaning if Corbyn actually calls a vote of no confidence because he's not going to call it until he's fairly certain it will be successful.

 

 

Sounds like May has survived quite comfortably tonight with less than 100 voting against her. Of course that just means the MPs who are really against her will start looking for other ways to undermine her leadership, going to be interesting times!

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2 minutes ago, steve66 said:

Where does it leave mogg and boris if may survives , are there careers just about finished ? looking very much like they have shot themselves in the foot 

Boris will get his chance to run and lose again in the next leadership election and depending on who the next leader is could probably get another cabinet position in the future.

Mogg has never really had any hope of being anything more than a well known backbencher TBH.

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Certainly not a strong enough victory to shut up her critics. Like I said earlier they'll just be emboldened and start looking for other ways to undermine her. Divisions have been deepened, not healed.

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63% of her MPs backed her, so the Tory's self- indulgent vanity project is over, for now..........but she's in no better a position than she was on Monday, when she bottled the showdown. Nothing has changed and nothing will - and, to be honest, it's difficult to see how anything she does will make any difference at all.........what an appalling situation to find ourselves in !

 

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