Brexit

[Lenmcharristar 9,180]

1 minute ago, Born Hunter said:

If we fully return to our fear based voting, like we did in the last referendum, then I think the Tories will still edge it. Can't see anyone having a landslide.

I think more folks are scared of Socialist Labour than are scared of centrist Tory. A hard economic Tory leader would possibly swing that in Labours favour (entirely based on my 'fear' thinking).

But f**k knows. May's government has torn their voter base to pieces through this.

We need a new party centre right biased feck the left off they have is on the verge of war again in Europe 

[ChrisJones 7,973]

3 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

But f**k knows. May's government has torn their voter base to pieces through this.

Hard to gauge because of where I get my news from but I'm seeing "anyone but the Tories" from this side.

[Born Hunter 17,638]

14 minutes ago, ChrisJones said:

Hard to gauge because of where I get my news from but I'm seeing "anyone but the Tories" from this side.

I've not heard that at all personally. The socialists will vote for Labour because they're terrified of the evil Tories and the conservatives will vote Tory because they're terrified of Corbyn.

The extreme left will probably go for Corbyn. The extreme right will probably not go Tory and then there's a bit of middle ground to play for but personally I think the Tories are more centrist than Labour so have the benefit there.

I no longer give a f**k. 

I hope the whole lot crashes into oblivion! I hope the FTSE tanks, the pound tanks and the housing market tanks and everyone fucks off.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Born Hunter

[ChrisJones 7,973]

1 minute ago, Born Hunter said:

I've not heard that at all personally. The socialists will vote for Labour because they're terrified of the evil Tories and the conservatives will vote Tory because they're terrified of Corbyn.

I no longer give a f**k. 

I hope the whole lot crashes into oblivion! I hope the FTSE tanks, the pound tanks and the housing market tanks and everyone fucks off.

I'll put you a bed up just in case. Ring me when you land at McCarran!

[Arry 18,588]

EU just using blackmail to keep us in. 

Tories just fecking every thing up.

Labour play politics.

Remainer's putting ever spoke in the wheel. they will vote down every deal just to get a second vote.

Well if there is a second vote it should only be ether this deal or no deal. 

Otherwise its a dictatorship. All remainer's should be charged with treason for going against the will of the country.

Cheers Arry

[Arry 18,588]

And they want 40 billion from us.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/964141/germany-germans-reparations-brexit-war-cash-marshall-plan-daniel-kawczynski

Cheers Arry

[dogmandont 9,338]

2 hours ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Tech border is no good we need a wallllllll haha we need a border up we’re Northern Ireland and part of the uk not the EUSSR and don’t for 1 min think I’m a paisleyite it’s because we will become the new Calais flooded with illegal scumbags and rapists and Harry’s army bombers and it will ruin this place. The frogs will start putting on boats to the ROI to clean up the french coastal towns and we will be swamped. Also we need to make our own rules and f u c k off the nazis in Brussels 

Nothing wrong with dreaming len. Lol. 

[Greyman 25,258]

I think it's only a small idiot minority that are to young to remember the treachery and destruction caused by Blair and brown who would jump into bed with Corbin and abbot plus the odd older deranged fool like bgd, but I can't see them doing very well at all in a general election, it's very easy to point score and look attractive when your the opposition and don't have to actually deliver anything you say, I,m hoping the next general election will see a rise in minority parties and a swing away from two party politics, Tommy Robinson has moved in with Gerard batten head of ukip I can see a lot of votes going that way, plus farage and a few older members have distanced themselves  from ukip claiming they have gone to far right and are talking about forming a new centre right party, we could see a change its happening right across the eu so bring it on,the migrant crisis more than any other issue is causing a rise of the right and the end of left leaning socialists like Dave even merkel, Adolf,s favourite daughter is now a lame duck leader after over a generation of being fondly known as mother by the Germans and we can all see how well macron is doing in France, the writing is already on the wall but some folk just need to wipe the shite from there eyes to see it 

[Arry 18,588]

Are the BBC bias? as its strange that all their interviews are held with remainer's in the back ground waving their flags and chanting.

Cheers Arry

[BGD 6,385]

6 hours ago, walshie said:

I'd called it fecked for a lifetime. The UK will be the dumping ground for all the 3rd world spongers and we will have the privilege of paying for them.

BTW this robust opposition you talk of - does that mean actually coming up with some decent ideas, (workable, not ridiculous, plucked out of the air nonsense in hope of extra votes), or do you mean simply disagreeing with everything the government says or does?

The idea of someone as retarded as Abbopotamus in charge of anything makes me wince. Surely even a dyed in the wool Labour supporter such as yourself cant think having a stupid embarrassing racist with zero grasp on reality as Home Sec is a positive move?

Read the manifesto and accompanying costing document?

5 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

No pm in history has held a more poison chalice. No pm could of come up with a deal. If we like it or not.....nobody could of done better. 

So it was pointless voting to leave then because no matter who was in power a brexit deal that was actually good for the country was impossible to achieve? What happened to "The easiest trade negotiations in history!" "The UK holds all the cards!" 

2 hours ago, ChrisJones said:

Complaining aside. Is there any way that Jeremy Corbyn doesn't become PM at some point in the future?

No. 

The only thing the Tories have going for them at the moment is fear. You can see that in the way they campaigned in the 2017 GE, they have no fresh policy ideas that appeal to people fed up with the status quo and can't communicate a positive vision for the future. Until they can do that instead of just trying to scare folk into voting Tory to protect them from the reds under the bed they'll continue to see their base shrink and they'll fail to attract new voters and activists to replace it.

The only reason they managed to just about cling to power in GE17 was Brexit and look how they've ballsed that up. The image of being the party of competent governence the Tories have cultivated for generations is falling apart around them and they've got a serious job to rebuild it. 

[green lurchers 16,369]

41 minutes ago, Arry said:

And they want 40 billion from us.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/964141/germany-germans-reparations-brexit-war-cash-marshall-plan-daniel-kawczynski

Cheers Arry

Wouldn’t give them fk  all we don’t need to give them anything we saved ther asses yrs back we need a leader who’ll give them unelected  scumbags a good slap and a big daddy splash 

[Greyman 25,258]

2 minutes ago, maxhardcore said:

Lol

We getting played like kippers by the rich of Europe in every country who want to be more rich at any cost.

 

They have slowly taken over without people noticing, twentythirty years ago most cars in the street were Austin, Morris, rover triumph, jaguar etc look down your street today and they are all French/ German even Toyota and Nissan are now made in Europe and use shitty Renault engineering Vauxhall is a rebadged Renault, ford transits are Renault powered, the building industry is the same most products I used when I started were made by British gypsum, today kanauf make it all the eu is just a massive market for the two founding members Germany/France so feck em

[Lenmcharristar 9,180]

37 minutes ago, Arry said:

Are the BBC bias? as its strange that all their interviews are held with remainer's in the back ground waving their flags and chanting.

Cheers Arry

Seen that myself they’re paid activists haha aka dole bums

[Arry 18,588]

Time to let Dominic Raab off the lead again. Last time May pulled the rug from under his feet when he said no deal no money. He would make a good PM imo.

Cheers Arry

[DIDO.1 20,863]

54 minutes ago, BGD said:

Read the manifesto and accompanying costing document?

So it was pointless voting to leave then because no matter who was in power a brexit deal that was actually good for the country was impossible to achieve? What happened to "The easiest trade negotiations in history!" "The UK holds all the cards!" 

No. 

The only thing the Tories have going for them at the moment is fear. You can see that in the way they campaigned in the 2017 GE, they have no fresh policy ideas that appeal to people fed up with the status quo and can't communicate a positive vision for the future. Until they can do that instead of just trying to scare folk into voting Tory to protect them from the reds under the bed they'll continue to see their base shrink and they'll fail to attract new voters and activists to replace it.

The only reason they managed to just about cling to power in GE17 was Brexit and look how they've ballsed that up. The image of being the party of competent governence the Tories have cultivated for generations is falling apart around them and they've got a serious job to rebuild it. 

I ment to say no pm without a majority.