Old Timers

[foxdropper 17,092]

Got something to say pabs or is it just the drinking hour

[pablo esc 1,598]

Saying do you really know what hard game is?

[foxdropper 17,092]

Hard foxes .Not seen a fox yet that can't be dug mate .

[dillydog 8,423]

No good knocking,, there's no one at home FD

[hjckcff 1,738]

Hard foxes .Not seen a fox yet that can't be dug mate .

i have. the flying fox.

[Rabbit Hunter 6,610]

No good knocking,, there's no one at home FD

Totally agree with that!Lol

[Pick and bar 381]

I've travelled and dug all over, including the trials, men if the 80s and 90s were more respectable and able to find a dog, locators were unreliable and we looked and learned. Now IMO the system is easy, walk 40m dig down 1.5 to a thump every now and again. Its about learning IMO. Them days it might take 3 hrs to find the dog, never mind dig it!!! Only my thoughts chaps. It makes and gives experience, when it goes tits up its grand to have knowledge in the bank.

[Blaise 2,258]

I've travelled and dug all over, including the trials, men if the 80s and 90s were more respectable and able to find a dog, locators were unreliable and we looked and learned. Now IMO the system is easy, walk 40m dig down 1.5 to a thump every now and again. Its about learning IMO. Them days it might take 3 hrs to find the dog, never mind dig it!!! Only my thoughts chaps. It makes and gives experience, when it goes tits up its grand to have knowledge in the bank.

 

I don't want to speak about who's the best, older or younger.

According to me and my sons, search is the most pleasant part of a hunt. We like it. I don't use locator. I don't put collar on dog, we could be tempted to use after few hours.

Nowadays, some climb to the top of the mountain with a helicopter before descending on skis. Others continue to climb on foot with a mountain ax and skis on the back.

[jiggy 3,208]

 

 

I've travelled and dug all over, including the trials, men if the 80s and 90s were more respectable and able to find a dog, locators were unreliable and we looked and learned. Now IMO the system is easy, walk 40m dig down 1.5 to a thump every now and again. Its about learning IMO. Them days it might take 3 hrs to find the dog, never mind dig it!!! Only my thoughts chaps. It makes and gives experience, when it goes tits up its grand to have knowledge in the bank.

I don't want to speak about who's the best, older or younger.

 

According to me and my sons, search is the most pleasant part of a hunt. We like it. I don't use locator. I don't put collar on dog, we could be tempted to use after few hours.

 

Nowadays, some climb to the top of the mountain with a helicopter before descending on skis. Others continue to climb on foot with a mountain ax and skis on the back.

the old ways are a great education for youngsters and respect for the talent ye have for locating dogs in france it is a gift but why not stick a locating collar on dog in case things go wrong the old boys would of used them if they were available at the time i presume you use bayer/mixer types and there isnt a rush to get to dog fair play then but hard mute dog needs collar but as said these hard dogs were a cull years ago Not fit for purpose how times have changed.

[foxdropper 17,092]

Times and dogs have changed .Except it or go live in a cave as an off grid spoon whittler .Just because we have collars dosnt mean theres a rush to dig the first time the dog stops still .I remember trying to find dogs in the wind and rain and taking a long time to do it .I know which id prefer .

[chesney 5,336]

Is it not the case that most of these old timers didn't have locaters available to them were they even invented then and if they were they probably wouldn't be arsed paying for one out of pure stubborness.

[liamdelaney 2,586]

 

 

I've travelled and dug all over, including the trials, men if the 80s and 90s were more respectable and able to find a dog, locators were unreliable and we looked and learned. Now IMO the system is easy, walk 40m dig down 1.5 to a thump every now and again. Its about learning IMO. Them days it might take 3 hrs to find the dog, never mind dig it!!! Only my thoughts chaps. It makes and gives experience, when it goes tits up its grand to have knowledge in the bank.

I don't want to speak about who's the best, older or younger.

 

According to me and my sons, search is the most pleasant part of a hunt. We like it. I don't use locator. I don't put collar on dog, we could be tempted to use after few hours.

 

Nowadays, some climb to the top of the mountain with a helicopter before descending on skis. Others continue to climb on foot with a mountain ax and skis on the back.

the old ways are a great education for youngsters and respect for the talent ye have for locating dogs in france it is a gift but why not stick a locating collar on dog in case things go wrong the old boys would of used them if they were available at the time i presume you use bayer/mixer types and there isnt a rush to get to dog fair play then but hard mute dog needs collar but as said these hard dogs were a cull years ago Not fit for purpose how times have changed.

 

Yes mute dogs were culled,and down our way fox dogs that would not work badger were giving away because he was only a fox dog.Would that make the standard of dog better?

[liamdelaney 2,586]

Is it not the case that most of these old timers didn't have locaters available to them were they even invented then and if they were they probably wouldn't be arsed paying for one out of pure stubborness.

The reason nobody had them was they were not invented.Are you serious with that statement they would not buy them from pure stubbornness?Do you think that the generation that went before you were stupid people.They survived and reared familys in much harder times than now,they had very few cars,they walked or rode bicycles,they ploughed with horses,they lived of the land,they done hard manual labour,they worked for a pittance.THEY SURVIVED because they were intelligent people.

[pablo esc 1,598]

I always if I can put one on the dog, but barely switch it on especially when digging down, had to learn all this and really tested myself and dog. Before that I had the same crack years ago, but with no coller and went continously through the number of digs and places. Now if I had a b+f, I'd be laughing. Same with the dog it good to listen and learn

[Blaise 2,258]

 

 

I've travelled and dug all over, including the trials, men if the 80s and 90s were more respectable and able to find a dog, locators were unreliable and we looked and learned. Now IMO the system is easy, walk 40m dig down 1.5 to a thump every now and again. Its about learning IMO. Them days it might take 3 hrs to find the dog, never mind dig it!!! Only my thoughts chaps. It makes and gives experience, when it goes tits up its grand to have knowledge in the bank.

I don't want to speak about who's the best, older or younger.

 

According to me and my sons, search is the most pleasant part of a hunt. We like it. I don't use locator. I don't put collar on dog, we could be tempted to use after few hours.

 

Nowadays, some climb to the top of the mountain with a helicopter before descending on skis. Others continue to climb on foot with a mountain ax and skis on the back.

the old ways are a great education for youngsters and respect for the talent ye have for locating dogs in france it is a gift but why not stick a locating collar on dog in case things go wrong the old boys would of used them if they were available at the time i presume you use bayer/mixer types and there isnt a rush to get to dog fair play then but hard mute dog needs collar but as said these hard dogs were a cull years ago Not fit for purpose how times have changed.

 

 

According to me, hard mute dogs aren't suitable on badger. With or without collar, it's the same, when you are obliged to dig deeply in a bad place.

I have some in my kennel, they are rarely efficient and it's to dangerous. I don't like fight and blood.