Glyn.....

I was lead to believe they got on fairly well for a while, I was told a tale that Ken was after some pups and Brian put him on to some saplings which had become to much for the owner , Ken bought them that day on his way to a show and sold them that day at the show held at llangollen new peds double bred Smithy .. I wonder who bought the dog pup lol

Cheers, 13-15 I'm happy much bigger they have problems working around here

About 14" that should be it now , he'll fill out now until his ears look small

8 months

I've done a bit of Asking about over the years including Ken also was given photos of a sister from same litter of Smithy x Rags they knew the lad who had the bitch mine where bred down from ... not that if makes alot of odds with all the different theories on there blood and its 40 years ago

Cheers Eddie , that's what I had heard as well

full sister ?

11 months

I have Smithy x Rags way back in my terriers breeding anyone know how Rags was bred as I was told she bought in same time as Smithy ?

8 months

Grass cut bit of running around

Barrie , lets hope they don't target us but i read enough anti stuff to know that they want to , the police on the whole are pretty clueless on the laws concerning hunting and as such many are influenced by these so-called experts, the problem is before you get to court police may bring in the rspca , maybe while they have you sitting on the side of the road after a days hunting , the next thing you know the rspca turn up as expert witnesses and they are taking your dogs, it happens now , i think this law will give them a greater opportunity, and once they get there hands on your dogs well i don't know many people who have had them back ! i'd love to think my dogs would be safe until proven innocent but i don't trust them i still class this as worrying news ....and i may still try for a allotment as my backyard grows nothing but terriers

i wouldn't want to be the test case , and to be honest if this does come into force that's the finale nail for me , ive had a great time hunting , but i know from the people i work with even ratting is seen as cruel for both Rat and Dog last year i killed a rat out in my works yard , and the people i work with were disgusted with me, and its not some city or a town i work in interpretation of the law by the rspca god help us its a f***ing mad world 5 years for letting a dog do what nature intended ,

yes sorry copied the wrong link read so many , this is from today so its back on the table https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/environment/environmental-protection/news/104842/animal-abusers-face-five-years-prison https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48766531

This could be dangerous for all working dogs , be they hound lurcher terrier gun dog or herding dog , some of these dimwits pushing there fanny lickers around in prams think taking them out in the rain is cruel , what about terriers that get a nip of a rat, any breed with a knocked up toe or out in all weathers soaked to the skin , dogs getting thorns, dogs living outside these are all things i've been pulled up on in the past !!!!! who is going to decide ? the rSPCA f**k me they will use this against all dogs used in field sports you get a pull on your way home with your muddy little baying dogs as worked with in the law we could be looking at 5 years !!!!! https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/rspca-animal-cruelty-michael-gove-legislation-law-a7975571.html