Old Timers

[Lenmcharristar 9,183]

 

Decided to read this as entertainment and wasn't disappointed .I couldnt care less what your circumstances are pukey as you will forever be a liar to anyone who brushes your life .Do you think money impresses me at all ,I'm self made with a building firm and hunt most the winter so your lifestyle holds no allure to me .You make a point that I won't be remembered lol like I care BUT its a fact MY dogs will live on through others .if I wanted fame I'd be selling dogs like the other peddlars you mention .I repeat again that Brian Nuttal has never met you ,you have never walked pups for him neither does he know of you lol.I have never said my dogs are better than anyone's ,that's something you have read into my persona and finally anyone with a hard type dog and a grain of intulect does not enter it in a deep spot .I repeat with a grain of intulect so that rules you out .Must be a shit life knowing your inferior,no one has a good word for you and your dogs are shite too .You paint yourself as a full time pest controller lol which I've disproved with a few phone calls.Coin holds no allure to me with the dogs neither does the strive to be recognised within the breed I chose .I will print a link to a Facebook page if you want where you are really showing your true colours .Do yourself and others a favour and f**k off for good instead of desperately trying to find recognition under a new name ,pathetic .

 

Same old boring sh*te, you put up whatever you want but its a fact that you would have no terriers but for the likes of them peddlers as you call them,I've had good dogs and bad dogs off all of them mentioned and I don't care if "NUTTY" don't remember me, he was handy to know at the time as he could get the antibiotic bottles cheap for us lads,we were just helping an old man out and he certainly did alright out of it at the time,I'm sure you will be every bit as forgettable if I asked him about you, he must be the only name you've ever met as you go on about it like a lovestruck teenager, I've had a few of his and as said before they are not for me. I only post under the avatar of Plucky because I was stopped from logging in as Wirral countryman and MR Plummer, I would like to get my old name back if at all possible though and I do sign WM at the end of every post so even a thick cnut like yourself can see it,phone calls and F/B threats are very desperate and make you sound like a grass,tie that in with your reluctance to give your name and no pics then it makes for an anti in disguise, you really are an odd one in fact you may say "a legend in your own mind",WM

who would win in a fight between you 2?

[pablo esc 1,598]

Me, I want to but in, ha,. Not really, but the are a right pair,

[chesney 5,326]

It's safe to say they don't really see eye to eye ha

[francolin 449]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yrs ago nobody give a fxxx what you were doing,we bumped into some idiot last week there squealing an shouting he was a member of some club iwft summat like that we shouldnt be on ground doing foxs theirs cubs about anyway f****d him off cxxt called the gards lol .these clubs ruining it running round shows posing whos the fanciest waterboots on,lolthe oul hands were rough n ready yrs ago but didnt care who done what holes better terriers aswell imo.

If it was not for the IWTF idiots as you call them,you would not be digging foxs or cubs at all,and when the Guards were called you would be going to prison.So bye their hard work these f***ing c**ts(your words)saved you going to jail.

 

jail for what..the oul lad owns the ground told us to do the holes,it was him was telling us the guards were called we were away on by then, he told them he allowed us on,so yer man was trying to get us jail.some terrier man eh.

 

Well you see only for them IWTF f***ing c**ts terrier work would be highly illegal now,and when the Guards were called you would be going to jail,has the penny dropped now??

 

its legal

 

Well spotted,its legal because the IWTF f***ing idiots worked very hard to keep it that way,thats why you are not going to jail for illegal digging,yet you slate the very people who fought your corner against powerful organisations for terrier men(even you).Do you not think you owe them an apology after all they done for you?

 

done nothing for us,i never asked him to butt in till our bussiness he just took it upon himself to be nosy the mate filmed him going mad lol its getting some likes on f/b.you have to admit he was in the wrong approaching lads hunting and not even his land.

 

Jesus why did you not tell me it was liked on FB,thats completely different.There is no answer I give up.

 

are you on fb liam

[jiggy 3,207]

People get there lines from peddlers then give out about other peddlers ruining peddlers lines now that is a riddle like frank buck said 20 pound cant catch distemper was he a peddler or what defines a peddler. If somebody took cash for a dog they have no business dictating how it should be worked now a man that gifts a dog is a genuine bloke and deserves at least a bit of input in how things should be done and what way progeny should be bred and asked for there opinion when things are going right or wrong alls they want is the truth to further strengthen their lines good or bad thats why they put trust in you in the first place.

Edited March 4, 2016 by jiggy

[chesney 5,326]

Have ya had bother with someone ya bought pup of jiggy.

[jiggy 3,207]

Have ya had bother with someone ya bought pup of jiggy.

not at all chesney failures are failures whether bought or gifted but most of the terrier police bought into lines then critisize the commoners and next show you go to their arm is around the peddler a bit of clarity from them would be nice ive no issue paying for a good un but i wont go out and belitttle them if its bad. Define peddler

[chesney 5,326]

There's failures in everything that's the chance everyone takes my experience is this the men that sell have a close circle they know whats the most likely to produce they breed them and gift them amongst themselves the odd time they maybe surplus 1r2 and someone gets lucky and buys it of the workers and producers of that line. But they also breed to the inferior stock of the line and pass it of as the genuine article every line has there champion dogs/bitchs but not all that they sell is out of these they say they are but their not I hope this helps.

[jiggy 3,207]

There's failures in everything that's the chance everyone takes my experience is this the men that sell have a close circle they know whats the most likely to produce they breed them and gift them amongst themselves the odd time they maybe surplus 1r2 and someone gets lucky and buys it of the workers and producers of that line. But they also breed to the inferior stock of the line and pass it of as the genuine article every line has there champion dogs/bitchs but not all that they sell is out of these they say they are but their not I hope this helps.

i agree with you completely if somebody outcrosses off their stuff and it fails its not their breeding but if they outcross and they click or improve they dont be long claiming it as their own.

[chesney 5,326]

Ye lads are very handy at doing that then they claim to have improved the line but when comes ta selling it's back to so and so's bloodline all back in them.

[Farmhand66 63]

Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside.

 

 

Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb

[Plucky1 1,119]

Much rather hear story's of no collars and long days, than sitting on your ass watching a bellman arrow tell where and what is happening. I would imagine the graft into finding a dog collarless and digging to it safely would be a content one. And id also say an art....... A chap i know told me a story he dug with his farther as a boy. Become of age took his old man out. Proceeded to put a collar on dog. His old man called him a knobead took collar off an threw it aside.

 

 

Cant beat and them old fellas, the world is changing and them men arnt coming back. But thr storys should remain . Atb

local knowledge of drains and earths is great but you should never risk your terriers life by listening to old wives tales of nostalgic events,locators changed my world into a safer place for my terriers, tree hands will remember my old red fell bitch entering a land drain in a ditch right behind a fox,we had worked the cover in that area for years safely until that day,none of the dogs were collared up,managed to stop anything else entering the drain and proceeded to try and listen for a sign of her,searched for hours then decided to put a 20min bitch in that was a bayer collared up,I followed her on the old knocker box for over 300yds up a ditch across a road onto a field eventually coming to a stop behind an old church, then nothing,my mate was still where she entered and whistled to say the second bitch was back out,my mate came round to where I was and we carried on looking for a manhole or receptor box but we could find nothing,the church was a good 50yds away and in a sewage bed we found a 2" drain that led to somewhere and I could hear a baying coming from there,we tried everything to locate where it lead but it all came to nothing,in desperation as it had started raining heavily I approached the fire brigade for a map of the drains in that area but they were hopeless so we ended up going to see the old farmer that owned the land we were trespassing on and he said he knew of the place we meant and that in the 1930's the council had put in a series of 6 foot main drains and receptor boxes in that lead down to the river fender,he agreed to come out but not until the following morning as it was very late by now, that was a very long night waiting for him,anyway next morning out came the farmer walked out to a spot in the middle of a ploughed field and said dig there,TH and me thought he'd lost his mind as he was in his 90's but we decided to do as he said,at about 3 ft we hit a metal cover and concrete circle,we cleared it and I had some "Keys" in my bag for lifting the covers,lifted the covers and 8ft below was my bitch,she had dropped down out of the land drain about half way up and couldn't get back up to get out if she'd been there all week, I thanked him and we promptly fecked off as the fire brigade and police were there to oversee everything, I later returned with a bottle of whiskey for the old boy and we were both happy,without local knowledge we would of been f*cked,we would of found her if we had of had her collared with a B + F but they were not about then, I personally hate drains as you never know where the f*ck they lead unless its an easy one straight through under a road or lane, digging without a collar is dangerous and not at all something to consider,most of the bad rescues I've been involved in have been terriers without a locator collar on and many have ended in a dead dog due to the amount of time finding and getting to them,WM

[VOON 1,313]

Same as anything though ,a man can only truthfully comment on what his eyes have seen and if bad practice was just that then a lad is right to condemn it .Its no good being romantic about the past ,its done and dusted with lessons learnt hopefully .The decent lads of yesteryear passed on decent ways and the messers have drifted into wherever messers drift ,ask Plucky .

I'm not the silly fecker that has to get up for work, I do as I like,when I like,where I like, 2 private pensions,own 2 houses and no debt so yes its hard drifting LOL's,get a real life dreamer,nobody will ever remember you when you're gone for your terriers,the likes of Parson Russell, Nuttall,Gould,Mousely,and even Plummer like many others are there for all to see,mention a name and you will automatically conjure that terriers particular image in your mind,mention Foxfecker and what,......nothing springs to mind,you have blended a few black lines together but when anyone see's them it will only be Nuttall they will be thinking of, you can call your betters all the names you like but it is them that will be remembered when you're dead and buried,having spoken to all the afore mentioned names I've never heard any of them say they are this or that or their dogs are the best,or tell you how to work them,we all do what we do and locators have made the job easier in as much as you can find them at a decent depth now,back in the day they did what they had to at times to get a result, here's a question then for those that have knocked any old timers, if your dogs collar was not working and it was a known hard stayer, would you enter another to get your mark ??? how many of you are guilty of bad practise ??? I would say we have all done mad stuff to get a result when desperate, I certainly have,WM[/

 

Guilty.

Edited March 5, 2016 by VOON

[foxdropper 17,092]

Decided to read this as entertainment and wasn't disappointed .I couldnt care less what your circumstances are pukey as you will forever be a liar to anyone who brushes your life .Do you think money impresses me at all ,I'm self made with a building firm and hunt most the winter so your lifestyle holds no allure to me .You make a point that I won't be remembered lol like I care BUT its a fact MY dogs will live on through others .if I wanted fame I'd be selling dogs like the other peddlars you mention .I repeat again that Brian Nuttal has never met you ,you have never walked pups for him neither does he know of you lol.I have never said my dogs are better than anyone's ,that's something you have read into my persona and finally anyone with a hard type dog and a grain of intulect does not enter it in a deep spot .I repeat with a grain of intulect so that rules you out .Must be a shit life knowing your inferior,no one has a good word for you and your dogs are shite too .You paint yourself as a full time pest controller lol which I've disproved with a few phone calls.Coin holds no allure to me with the dogs neither does the strive to be recognised within the breed I chose .I will print a link to a Facebook page if you want where you are really showing your true colours .Do yourself and others a favour and f**k off for good instead of desperately trying to find recognition under a new name ,pathetic .

Same old boring sh*te, you put up whatever you want but its a fact that you would have no terriers but for the likes of them peddlers as you call them,I've had good dogs and bad dogs off all of them mentioned and I don't care if "NUTTY" don't remember me, he was handy to know at the time as he could get the antibiotic bottles cheap for us lads,we were just helping an old man out and he certainly did alright out of it at the time,I'm sure you will be every bit as forgettable if I asked him about you, he must be the only name you've ever met as you go on about it like a lovestruck teenager, I've had a few of his and as said before they are not for me. I only post under the avatar of Plucky because I was stopped from logging in as Wirral countryman and MR Plummer, I would like to get my old name back if at all possible though and I do sign WM at the end of every post so even a thick cnut like yourself can see it,phone calls and F/B threats are very desperate and make you sound like a grass,tie that in with your reluctance to give your name and no pics then it makes for an anti in disguise, you really are an odd one in fact you may say "a legend in your own mind",WM[/quote)

 

Same boring shite yes but boringly true .No one would have any terriers if it weren't for our predecessors knobhead .Ive never had a terrier off Brian in my life but I was given some of his via another bloke that were undiluted by jackers way before he started selling so facts matey facts .Its you that bandies his name ,I've only ever mentioned him as the root to what I have and only half of it at that .My terriers are as far removed from his as yours are from mine .I've never met him either lol ,never said I had but I've spoke on the phone to him numerous times .

Reluctance to give my name lol ,are you for f****n real and pics of what dead foxes,black terriers marked up ,yes that would go down well for a snitch .Look back in the archives if your that much of an anorak ,desperate to see real terriers .

You seem surprised I do my homework on you or others for that matter but its what I do ,it ain't hard on here knowing a few lads here and there .

From that very first pm you sent me I did some checking as I was ,ashamed to say it ,a bit impressed by your speal ,but that was soon dispelled when I phoned a lad near you and others phoned me .

You and others may find it creepy but background checks are easy and help keep myself and others out of trouble .

You no doubt know by now that others have been suitably warned of your exploits and if it keeps them safe then job done RJ.

I have blocked you so reply to the masses if you want .

[Waz 4,212]

well thats another nice thread ruined...