I agree Nighthawk, each to there own and I don't think its a hardcore view at all, but I would see no enjoyment going ferreting on masse making a load of noise, give me a couple of people who know the score every time which leads (from my experience) a far more enjoyable and effective way of ferreting. :yes: Same goes for most hunting, fishing etc except foxhunting or coursing, but even then I always preferred the quiet days.