First x can all go tits up for a moderately skilled trainer pretty quickly - if I was advising a first timer/youngster to for for a collie x I might suggest a 3/4 bred - they can be less of a challenge...just my opinon...and experience...
i agree, 3/4 bred better choice for a novice. i dont think a first timer/youngster is moderately skilled at all, i would class them as unskilled.
Yeah - fair comment mate - however, I have seen moderately skilled trainers unable to cope with the collie psyche...and then turn to drink/drugs... and bull xs...