i wouldnt say that theres anybody breeding any breed of dog that knows exactly what theyre doing.The first dogs i ever saw dug to were out of a beagle bitch by an unknown father(she got lost from a pack and was living wild in a local bog for 4 0r 5 months until a localterrierman made a trap to catch her).They were all fairly good but the beagle they were out of was handy enough below ground as well
great pictures lads,the dogs are looking great.i started that brown bitch i had with me at the w,meath ,yesterday,shes a nut job-how are yere bull/russell x patterdale going.atb
id say they could all throw to a different side of the breeding-some could be bull deerhound ,or some could be saluki wheaten etc.with less breeds involved theres less directions the genetics of the pups could take
her dam came from legion,she was by nine and im not sure what bitch she was out of.
I did think she was out of l.red but i think there was another litter by nine fairly close in time to bear,mask etc..Sorry for not txting you back (havnt had credit in a while)
he was the grandfather of a handy bitch i had,unfortunately she was nicked about a year ago-her dam was off a bitch bred by legion-no problems with any of them.Id say sonatal nailer was born before the outcross-i think theres a brother of nailers alive somewhere(must be 16 or 17)
you are right to an extent,but the nature of working dogs is that they must be genetically healthy to do their job properly wheras showdogs are bred to have a particular shape,looks etc. which may or not be genetically healthy for the dog.
The more bitches its used on the more chances it has of throwing workers-its a numbers game.If you look at greyhounds Brett lee (fastest dog in the world) x paua to burn (fastest bitch in the world) and the entire litter was crap.
Its in gods hands as far as im concerned-you never know how theyll turn out until you do it (one way or another) whether they are outcrossed inbred or whatever.Ive seen entire litters of workers of average parents and useless dogs from brilliant parents
The Irish had sense and didn't bring the ban in mate unlike our labour loonies :censored:
they saw the ban coming and brought in muzzles-its my cousins boyfriend handling the dog at the end of the video.I think that big fella thanks dog was 8 stone weight.
Totally agree ...that is the problem in the gun dog world most lads are motavated by the pound if a lad has a decent dog that has won a few FTs he will put it out to all comers with out ever seeing the bitch work as he just wants to line his pocket and in all honesty you cant blame them takeing £400-£500 for letting his dog get its hole ....but like Ali says im glad I dont mix in they circles ...maybe if the gundog and most lurcher and terrier men bred purely for improveing stock then there would be so much litters and there certainly wouldnt be so much shite going about .
I honestly cant be
there was a family from finland that had(naturally) some type of mutation that made them shithot at endurance sports-when you think about it all olympians are genetic mutants of a sort.Could well be the reason for theie success.