I've said this on this site a few times. But there are plenty of dogs, bred directly from hancocks, up and down the country that are taking allsorts, pre ban lol, on a very regular basis. I'll leave all the 'legendary' bollox for others to say.
Biggest reasaon why most people fail with collie crosses, and then blame the dog, is the fact that they are too impatient to allow a dog to mature mentally. Trust me mate, most collie crosses are, if they are allowed to mature, are just as tough as most other types, and most of them will work day in day out, night in and night out, without too ma