Thats the ticket Super quite yet hard hitting. Similar to a FAC airgun but with a bit more wallop... just thinking of a few situations where this could come in quite handy. Was pigeon shooting at the weekend, awsome hide, great pattern.. trouble was all the pigeons were lined up like tin cans on a wall on a cable about 60 yards away. Nothing behind but miles of fields but still feel uneasy about using regular .22LR rounds... what are your thoughts on using these... or not..