You confuse me at times Border Lad ..you say in the other "100 rabits a night possible" topic that rabbit numbers have never been better in your area yet here you say "they strip and kill and leave the country bare"? It's one or the other is it not? I am sure the youth of today are out there catching big numbers of rabbits,why?..fit,enthusiatic etc:..far too many who condone or say it can't be done,why,because they haven't got the dog with the minerals capable of it or just prefer to sit in front of the fire on the blackest,windiest,wet nights the winter has to throw at us on their pc's .I h