Born Hunter
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Who was it that did the modelling? Who was it that identified the virus? Who was it that designed the diagnostic tests? Who is it that is advising government on strategy? Who is it that is working on vaccines and currently have them at human trials? Who is it that has managed to design, test and manufacture critical medical equipment in DAYS that the Swiss 'experts' said wouldn't be possible? We don't just praise the brave....
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Okay, whatever.
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I think the tests that are being developed give real-time (or near-time) results. I don't know details but it doesn't require lab analysis. Rate of production is an obvious bottleneck I agree. A bit off topic but I think how industry and scientists have responded to this deserves praise imo. Every bit as much as we are giving doctors and nurses.
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I think it's primarily from being in close proximity, breathing. So effectively person to person. I'm not sure how significant all this gloves and hand washing really is, there's some doubt over it. Basically what I was wondering is if it's too late to implement the same strategy South Korea did, only even more effectively as the antibody test will tell us who has already had it and recovered (likely immune) as well as who is currently infected.
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I'm not sure how effective this will be at this stage (too late?) but once the antibody testing is flying they'll know who has had it (likely immune) and who has got it so they can then isolate them and trace who they've been in contact with to limit spread. This level of intelligence might be enough to allow the lock-down to be eased and life to resume somewhat... If that is possible, it's a much nearer term conclusion to all this than waiting for a vaccine and much less risk to life than herd immunity.
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Mate, if I wasn't in the job that I am I'd too probably just say "bullshit". But I am and it just conditions you to be more cautious with conclusions.
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I assume epidemiologists. My point is that neither of us really have a grasp on the variables in China to really make any judgements. Doubting the data and concluding that it is BS are two different things. Okay, so maybe my second point wasn't explained well enough. What I mean is that using 'common sense' to conclude that China is BSing us because the data out of Italy and Spain have not followed the same trend is flawed when you consider other countries, like SK. Yes Italy's actual case fatality rate is likely much much lower than what the data suggests because of asymptomat
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Maybe. Do you know how the significant variables measure up for China vs Italy/Spain? Stuff like age demographics, comorbidity stats, mobility of the population, cultural differences (how acceptable physical contact is), capacity and capability of health services, how quickly and effectively quarantine measures were implemented etc etc. I don't really, so I'm not comfortable making that judgement. South Korea currently has a fatality rate of 1.4%. If Italy achieved that they would not have a death count of 8000, but 1100....
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Not really one for all this public show stuff. I think it’s good but ermmm I’m not normally on board. Anyway, place went mental round here. I expect they think I’m a c**t. Lol
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You have to be creative, otherwise after a few sets of push-ups and lunges you'll be thinking "wtf do I do now then?" LOL. I used to lift 'heavy' and enjoyed it but this stuff suits my body type and just feels healthier. Though I am still recovering from a tweaked tendon in my forearm after a poor attempt at a back lever. I usually still use the full spectrum of gym equipment but incorporate a bit of calisthenics to keep things interesting. And of course now, it's all I can do anyway. Still much restricted.
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Mate, the NHS is under enough pressure as it is!
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I'm really excited to see the results of the antibody testing!
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This bit is the game changer.
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20min long queues for Morrisons at Gamston. Let me know if you hear of any of this heavy policing stuff mate.
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I've ditched the upper/lower split in favour of full body. No weights, just a heap of calisthenics. Probably increase the frequency of my workouts too. My gym has suspended all memberships, but I've told them to keep my direct debit going so long as I'm still employed myself. They're good people, running a class gym and those of us that are doing alright through this need to support those that are being impacted by it in whatever ways we can. It's not exactly worthy of a knighthood but I just feel it's right.
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The longer this goes on the less I trust any info coming out of China mate. After all it is a totalitarian regime which has even Chinese emigrants living in the West in full support of the ideology that "what is best for the nation comes before what is the right of the individual". A lot of people will now feel they have all the evidence they need to prove china is lying, but personally I don't have anything close to that, but I do have a lot of doubts. It'd take a bit of effort and research to shed those doubts and make a decision on what is actually going on there.
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Sometimes, sometimes not. Focusing on the sometimes and ignoring the sometimes not is confirmation bias.
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I'm seeing quite a bit of confirmation bias going on over this. I'm not bothered enough/at all to challenge it.
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I understand and agree with his concerns over acceptable collateral damage to economy, the severity of this disease and specifically how severe it will be in the UK. But there's a heap more in that 10mins that I thought was absolute nonsense tbh. All the same, all views welcome.
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I'm hoping it's just the good weather. I want the rain to come back!
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On my normal morning dog walk I never see a soul. By design! Holy f**k, now every c**t has found out about it.
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The curve has been quite steady and consistent up until now, for all countries really. I wouldn't expect anything drastic. Someone will have lost the clicker or run out of fingers and toes! I expect around another hundred to be added. Hitting 600 mark wouldn't be unexpected though.
