Born Hunter
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Not seen the film but just read the synopsis. One in 12 infected with a 25 to 30% case fatality rate! Thats waaaaaayyyy worse than this mate. Bare in mind Wuhan city is ground zero, with a population of 19 million people! After some, I admit, quite totalitarian measures they have gotten on top of it and to date, in the WHOLE of China, barely more than 3000 have died! Even if all those were in Wuhan it's not exactly a death sentence to be amongst it. The films pathogen would've killed hundreds of thousands in Wuhan.
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Or terrible diet, particulate emissions, obesity etc etc. Suicide even! That's not meant to trivialize this pandemic because people are dying and there's stuff we can do to mitigate that. Just trying to bring some context.
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Mate, if they were giving it away at the pump you'd still be paying like 80p a litre! In the current climate there will be next to no investment going on as all operators focus on short term survival and then the price will sky rocket as there is a supply bottleneck. So it can't go any lower, this current price is unsustainable and only come about because of a political battle between OPEC and Russia. Theres a bit more to it than your mate says, not all Russia's fault but yeah that's the bottom line.
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Indeed, looks like COVID19 has a considerably higher case fatality rate than seasonal flu. But then we are taking much more drastic action with this than we do flu. Also if we get into the dirty topic of ranking deaths then I'd say the fact that seasonal flu kills kids doesn't make the death rates simply equatable.
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You said what viruses take more lives. Seasonal flu has taken many more lives in the same time. If you meant what has a higher case fatality rate then I'll go with Ebola. 50% CFR on average but has been as bad as 90%.
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Just one stat that is to mind, seasonal flu kills on average 17000 people in England annually. A bad year will be 28000. But that disease is endemic, we are used to it. Epidemics are scary just because we haven't psychologically aclimatised and of course the severity is a bit unknown. The CDC have an info page on the history of pandemics, stats for each one. Imo this one is getting so much coverage because it's hitting the developed world I a fairly unpresidented way.
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Who MIGHT die. Who should be isolated anyway. It’s arse about face to isolate the low risk majority. Life can’t just stop. Especially not for this poxy virus.
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I think that should be policy personally. I'm sick of hearing about the backlash and think folks should just be given the choice. If they can manage having their kids at home then by all means. Those that can't, then don't force them to, we're not there yet.
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Yeah, summat like that. LOL. Not sure many political ideologies have a section for 'national emergencies'.
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Be a famine next if the spring crops fail.
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One department has been sent home to work from home indefinitely already today. We've just been told to prepare to pack up for the same gig. Load of bollocks. Oil price is already rock bottom and this won't help.
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Private ocean liners were requisitioned by the British Gov' as troop carriers for the Falklands campaign so yeah why not.
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God, she must be some woman!
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Fair, but that would be way too easy to test and disprove. Never mind the practical implications of puling the wool over all the virologists and medical experts eyes. So I'm not giving that theory too much credence mate.
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I see the EU have got themselves into a bit of a confused state over border control. One minute it's a bad thing and the next they're 'gently' introducing their own borders. Absolute madness to think that to a huge lump of society the politics of national borders is unthinkable.
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I already isolate myself enough as it is, without rejecting society further mate. Anyway, I can't be arsed to get into on here.
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Neither do the experts in bio-warfare.... It's all spun out of the fact that the Chinks do bioweapon research at Wuhan.
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THAT I'm in total agreement with. I don't like the train we're on or the destination but as a passenger I don't have much choice.
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Wilf, do you even look at the stats? All the countries in lockdown are suffering worse than us, that's why they're in lockdown. Prevention is indeed better than a cure unless the prevention causes more damage. We're doing just fine fella.
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I'm not even that passionate mate. I don't really care if folks want to have an emotional breakdown over this or whatever. I just want to try to bring some facts and evidence to the hysteria.
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No no mate, you're being quite level headed about it all and I respect that. Problem is it might not level off until we get some level of herd immunity as the disease becomes endemic. I see China's daily incident rate has jumped up a bit which I suspect may be because they are trying to get folks back into work after getting on top of it.
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Why's any of that significant here. The entire developed world is as susceptible to this as we are in the UK. If the UK was getting it as hard as Italy, Wuhan, Spain, Iran, Germany, France, Switzerland then I'd agree we need to take more serious action, but we aren't. And I'll be f****d if I want to see the country go into recession and folks die from unfunded services long term anyway.
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Mate, I know I'm getting to be seen as a bit of a prick on this thread but whatever, just FYI there's apparently little actual evidence that hand washing is going to make any difference. This pathogen is airborne and the biggest risk for contracting it is breathing in a confined space with others. Hand washing isn't likely to help, making sure you are living a life that keeps your immune system tip top (sleep, nutrition, stress etc) and avoiding places like pubs etc is likely your best course of action. Hand washing won't hurt but there's little to suggest it'll help, other than give worr
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Like I keep saying, the economic threat is much worse than the health threat imo. Everyone seems to think the economy is there to make the rich richer, like the poor are immune to economic trouble because they're already poor. Do folks think that mass isolation is going to make this infectious disease go away? Like if we shut down society for a month it'll just die away and we can all come out to play again. This is going to run its course and all we can do is keep the incident rate down to manageable levels, which at the moment it is.
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Define worse? It's not even close to bad yet imo when put into context, so yes it'll probably get worse. The economy is gonna take a hit no matter what but we can't just all hide until it's over and there's no sense in doing everything to stop this disease if it's going to lead to collapse anyway.
