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Everything posted by Deker
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First off you have to ask yourself, WHY do I want a semi auto as opposed to a bolt action. If you can come up with a good reason then fine, get one, if not get a bolt, accuracy wise they are never as good but the difference is seldom worth talking about. They are harder to clean and more ammo fussy, and the odds are you will use twice as much ammo for no extra return, just because you can! I have both, and in honesty I can say my Magtech 7022 is great, accuracy is all I need for the field, it has proved very reliable and is very light, but it doesn't come out very often in anger, more
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Those flip up covers can help!
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i think about £150 trade, plus vat if my memory serves me right Not sure about the .22lr stock but the HMR (which is different in design and fitting) was around £170 last year! An option already mentioned is to scour the used market place, you may find a whole rifle cheaper, I suspect that will make an interesting variation application though!
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The barrel is only free floating from that bolt/spacer to the muzzle. This fitting needs to be firm, but you also have levels of play in the stock metalwork fitting so you need to align them properly before bolting everything tight.. The bolt you mention does NOT lock against the barrel, it pulls on the round threaded spacer which is dovetailed to fit in a metal dovetailed section on the barrel. It pulls that and holds it firmly there should be no movement here.
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.222 sighted to 100 yards but what about 200 yards???
Deker replied to lampingking's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Ok, Its likely is the response, but thats the how long is the piece of string question. What is the rifle, barrel length, condition, what weight and type of bullet, is it a home brew or factory load, is it hot, etc, etc?. There is no answer without a lot more info, and if you have the info then you can load it into one of the various ballistic programs available for an approximate answer! -
I'm not following some of the die hard attitudes here about traps, and the gas being useless. Aluminium Phosphide is simply another tool in the pest controllers box. I have the paperwork and I use it, traps can be good to, both have a place and when used correctly, both are effective, and both can CLEAR an area. Suggesting Phostoxin or Talunex doesn't work is exactly the same as saying traps don't work, correct in both cases if you don't know what you are doing! Aluminium Phosphide is DEADLY, great care must be taken, and conditions MUST be right or forget it. The regulations
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Yes, but VERY few.
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That is far too general a statement and therefore incorrect. CZ rimfire triggers are not the best in the world on any model, back from the BRNO days to current. Just the same they are still better than some. In addition, some are ok, not all need work, but look at the package, you can always go on, why don't they use better wood (actually it's not bad generally), why don't they finish their synthetic stocks better, why don't they improve the bolt action, why don't they................... I point you in the direction of the post above... Weirauch, Anschutz, Sako, etc, I defy anyo
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That is far too general a statement and therefore incorrect. CZ rimfire triggers are not the best in the world on any model, back from the BRNO days to current. Just the same they are still better than some. In addition, some are ok, not all need work, but look at the package, you can always go on, why don't they use better wood (actually it's not bad generally), why don't they finish their synthetic stocks better, why don't they improve the bolt action, why don't they................... I point you in the direction of the post above... Weirauch, Anschutz, Sako, etc, I defy anyo
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Sportsmans prices Today both .17 HMR Cz American £365.99 Weihrauch HW60J £692.90 The Weirauch is Nearly Double the money, it will not shoot any better and it will not last any longer and it will not be any more reliable. Fact is if you want one then fine, I don't, CZ does everything I need, so I'm happy. Others may want a Weirauch, Fine!
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I believe I am correct in saying that only the 455 is available now with thumbhole/laminate stock.
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any gun is capable of wounding its the shot placement that does the killing not the gun. Yes, accepted, however if the Vmax load hits almost anywhere at the front end it's an outright kill... please before anyone comes back, yes I do practice, I do take care with shot placement and virtually always hit where I intended to.. I watch the shot hit through the scope... it's apparent later when I pick up, the damage caused by the round is enormous, it does not wound. Half a step backwards would be a good idea!
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personally i think the margin is similar for both, as regards to a 22lr and a centrefire, because with a 22lr you have a very light bullet, if it isnt placed in the exact spots on a fox it can cause suffering, so you need to know your limitations, its similar with small centrefires such as 222's as the bullet is still light but isnt affected as much untill at a longer distance. you also have room for little errors as a centrefire will cause more damage, its all about confidence in yourself at shooting at longer distances, me personally would be happy enough to go drop a fox at 50-60 with a 22l
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Try the CZ 452 its exactly the same as the 455 only its a fixed barrel,because everyone is going for the new 455 you should pick up a 452 a lot cheaper, I got one about 3 months ago for £320, it loves hornady 17 grain and shoots very tight groups at 100 yards, if you want a .22 get a dedicated one, its saves a lot of messing about changing barrels and re zeroing plus they are cheap enough, you would still need an extra slot on your FAC for the extra barrel anyway. Fair point, is the interchangable barrel the only difference? Nope, but don't get all wound up about that, and intercha
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lol i have the .22lr for that, well i heard that the tikka t3 is lighter and more durable with synthetic stock, i thought of a larger calibre for hitting those more distant foxes, and may also be able to shoot the odd deer if being a 243? It's up to you and gets personal of course. This will take any fox at 200 yards or more with the right ammo. How distant were you thinking of? Tikka T3 Lite more durable :hmm: I wouldn't put money on that! If deer are coming into the equation then a deer legal rifle obviously makes sense, and a .243 can be an awsome fox tool, but it's still a lot mor
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I have one of these spare, as new, fully boxed, etc, comes with flip up covers and sunshade! I use several, and the 6-24 version, still do, so does my lad. http://www.jsramsbot...riflescope.html That works out just over £50 with the carriage, mine is £32 including delivery to UK Mainland. Bargain! :yes: Anyone want a chat please PM me..... Cheers Bottom two, .22lr Style, WMR American.
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It wouldn't be my first choice for leaning out of a clients bedroom and shooting a fox in their back garden but, for what many seem to call a dedicated fox gun it will be fine! What would be better about a Tikka and why would you want a bigger calibre?
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Yep! Most are also very reliable and most will last a lifetime if treated with respect. So, pay more for wood, asthetics, engineering, whatever if you want, but don't expect to achieve any more in the field with it! :thumbs:
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Something seems to be getting lost in translation here!
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He cant, but I am talking about me shooting both rifles side by side, one after the other! Similar effect when I shoot heavy fluted 20" .308, against 24" lighter barrel. :laugh: You have a strange effect on rifles, I have never seen this before on 1 for 1 shots, I can buy it if you were down a range and blasting away but I'm stumped as to how you are doing this "Field" shooting? Ammo maybe? If you are ever down my way bring some tools and I'll see how my HMR and .308 stack up against them! Many different reasons I expect, different rifling, different cleaning regimes,
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He cant, but I am talking about me shooting both rifles side by side, one after the other! Similar effect when I shoot heavy fluted 20" .308, against 24" lighter barrel. :laugh: You have a strange effect on rifles, I have never seen this before on 1 for 1 shots, I can buy it if you were down a range and blasting away but I'm stumped as to how you are doing this "Field" shooting? Ammo maybe? If you are ever down my way bring some tools and I'll see how my HMR and .308 stack up against them!
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Me thinks your mate can't shoot too well! :laugh:
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I had a link to HMR barrels being chopped down 1" at a time and the optimum for speed was about 18". Doesn't seem to work anymore! Accuracy wise 16-20" I don't see the difference as being measurable for most, so get what works best for you.
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HMR will make very little difference, you will have to fire a LOT of rounds down even a light HMR barrel, in very quick succession to warm it up to any appreciable extent. 10 shots quickly down a .223 and you will have a very hot barrel! Just the same, Zero COLD!
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Ok, and your reasoning, or are you just looking for a scrap?
