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  1. Deker
    I am more than a little confused about some comments on this thread. Lets take the often quoted chicken situation, as it runs around the enclosure after its head was cut off! It is dead and it is NOT feeling any pain......... do you shoot it several times because you can see it was in absolute agony (just exactly how do you know that).......... or to............. put it out of its misery (and how is that achieved when it is already dead) ?
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    And I take it you do that while its doing backflips and jumping about? The John Wayne of the airgun world... As said each situation is different in that case it would be quickly picked up and despatch end by hand. Either way has it's place and basic common sense tells you which is appropriate at the time. Obviously not , pianoman didn't say it was doing back flips and jumping in the air clapping did he You have got read each situation, when something happens like that and take the quickest method of despatch and most of the time that is with another pellet to the head So less of
  3. Deker
    And I take it you do that while its doing backflips and jumping about? The John Wayne of the airgun world... To be honest, as I read the OP I was somewhat confused as to how these additional shots were delivered to an animal doing gymnastics!
  4. Deker
    The brain had gone into overdrive as mentioned in an earlier post, sending out random messages all over the place, it was dead, hence why 3 further shots made little or no difference, you can't kill something again when it is already dead!
  5. Deker
    Why don't you stop thinking and guessing and ASK CCI? It is patently obvious YOU (not WE) have decided what the problem is, and for someone who hasn't even got a FAC or own a HMR, I find it rather interesting that single handed, you have solved the HMR ammo problem that the manufacturers haven't in well over 10 years.
  6. Deker
    The OP wants rabbits for his friends snake. Who said anything about guaranteeing no lead trace? We have been eating game with lead shot in it for years, We have also been eating rabbits shot with lead bullets for years, why has that not been banned under H&S? No .22lr FMJ, what are you talking about, FMJ is simply a wide term for a lead bullet coated in another metal, there are plenty of solid, copper coated .22lr around, and who said anything about using FMJ anyway?!
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    From all accounts it's the ammo not the rifles at fault. Appears to be poor quality control. It is the "manufacturing process", with perhaps a sprinkling of QC on top. If it was simply QC this problem would have been resolved 10 years+ ago. Yeah it's a combination of factors no doubt but to my mind it's still a quality control issue. There are allegedly issues with production, but if the quality control was better, then surely these damaged cases would never make it to production. So far as we appear to know, the issue appears to be ammo with cracked cases making it to
  8. Deker
    Everyone must use whatever target works for them to zero, personally I knock these up and find them excellent, couldn't be any simpler and loads of aim/zero points on each A4 sheet, straight off the printer.
  9. Deker
    It doesn't matter a fig, so long as the bullet consistently arrives in the right place.
  10. Deker
    How big is this friends snake, how many rabbits does it need? HP sub sonic ammo tends not to fragment, on the whole it will expand and deform depending on what it hits. An ear to ear headshot will most commonly pass clean through anyway, depending on distance. If you are that concerned, try placing the bullet elseware, where it will still kill but will be more likely to pass through. Another easy option is to use solid ammo, people forget that up to not that many years ago a solid 40g Sub was the staple bunny round. Edit Reading the OP again I'm a tad confused, why is
  11. Deker
    From all accounts it's the ammo not the rifles at fault. Appears to be poor quality control. It is the "manufacturing process", with perhaps a sprinkling of QC on top. If it was simply QC this problem would have been resolved 10 years+ ago.
  12. Deker
    I have to say I'm with you here. The HMR has it's issues, well the ammo does anyway, this is without doubt appalling and potentially dangerous, SO BE CAREFUL. It isn't Russian roulette as someone mentioned, it is normal safety procedures. With all due respect to all users, a squib load can happen with ANY calibre, it may be more likely to happen with a HMR, but if normal safety procedures applicable to any calibre are followed there is not going to be a problem.
  13. Deker
    Glad you are still in one piece. That is fairly remarkable and obviously bad news. I have heard reports of the odd magazine blowing out, but that is by far the worst rifle damage I have seen/heard of.
  14. Deker
    So if it was wondering around your street and garden and took a liking to your pets and children that would be ok would it?
  15. Deker
    Just think how dangerous that would have been if he was using a .22lr with subs....
  16. Deker
    This is totally true. Having spent many thousand rimfire and many thousand centrefire rounds I know which one I would be worried about most often when it came to ricochet. It is correct that bullet composition will play a part, but so does the theory of relativity. Kinetic energy lost to the ground by digging in or breaking or moving large debris is massive, as is the resistance from gravity and air of the larger projectile versus the smaller. It doesn't necessarily follow that after striking the ground a larger or heavier projectile will travel further than a smaller one. As for t
  17. Deker
    I've certainly had a variation of tip colour in a box but as yet I can't say I have experienced this phenomenon.
  18. Deker
    22-250 and a .270, in both cases they could be described as relatively noisy and vicious to use! My .308 Rem 700SPS is a pussycat to shoot, it is remarkably easy and restrained and relatively quiet. That said, it rarely comes out for ANY deer, my .243 does just fine, and the .223 for the smaller ones! Deer calibres are personal choice/ability/situation and FEO of course. Obviously get what you want, but bear in mind there is good reason why the common calibres are common!
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    I simply don't get this debate, you use any rifle/calibre/ammo within it's capabilities and those of the shooter, then you select the most suitable for the quarry/location/climate. You don't need a 22-250 to shoot a fox at 100 yards if you are competent, likewise you don't reach for the HMR if you are going after long range fox. Just what is the issue/debate here? You certainly have more margin for error if using a 22-250 at 100 yards as opposed to a HMR, but you also have more likelihood of over penetration, and the location may not be conducive to the larger calibre/extra energy/extra noi
  20. Deker
    But the HMR will NOT humanely kill a fox with a chest shot past yards. Believe me I hold my hands up and done it, hence why I have now sold the hmr and got a .22-250 Nobody is doubting that the hmr is inadequate for fox but it certainly will kill a fox wheather or not it drops on the spot is a different matter. Head shot is a must, with my .22-250 I can honestly say I've never had a runner I've had the odd nerve twitch and that's it. Come on SD, you know you can't go round making definitive statements like that, someone is always going to pull you up. I took a member of this for
  21. Deker
    Neither have I specifically, but the fox has plenty of other waste material to eat in the fields around lambing time, and will tend to take weak/deformed/ill lambs first anyway, in many cases these will be gone before the farmer even knew they were born.
  22. Deker
    You can shoot a fox dead at any range in theory provided you have around 40-50ft lbs of energy left in the bullet. Whether or not it's both humane, and an instant death that is repeatable, time after time is another matter. Personally I wouldn't shoot an animal the size of a fox without a headshot with a HMR and even then at limited range not least of which because of the wind drift as much as the lack of energy at range. A 20gr is a small light bullet. The HMR extends the humane range beyond the .22LR but not as far as the CF calibres. As I said above, a CF is a much better tool for f
  23. Deker
    Where do you get that information, the new Home Office guide lists it as appropriate/suitable for foxes! As a blanket statement there are not better tools for foxes, the HMR is the BEST tool for foxes in many circumstances, as other calibres may be in other circumstances.
  24. Deker
    It's 17 HMR. There isn't an answer to your question, it's about the acoustics of the specific area and the history of the rabbit population. You can blat away at them all day in some places at distance, in other places after the first shot it's a ghost town!
  25. Deker
    First off it .17HMR. A high velocity .22lr will be just about as noisy as a HMR, its just a different sort of crack. A sub sonic .22lr with a moderator will be much quieter. HMR is a very effective rabbit control tool, as is the .22lr, they tend to be used in different environments. It isn't so much about noise, as what you need to use, if you are talking about bunnies 120-150 yards I don't see the .22lr as a contender, you need a HMR, so whatever noise it makes you are stuck with.
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