Have used a range, my mate has the top range one, and its great, you can see something a km away very clearly. . . . . . which is fairly pointless really. I want to see whats within the max 100 acre field I'm in, and I want to know what it is and run it with my dog. One thing a lot of people forget is go for one with low mag, as you will be scanning fields if using a dog, not trying to zoom in and stick a slug in its head across a field. Xm30 is fine. Have some funny moments with thermal, spent a while walking up a big fallow buck once, which was a chimney stack sticking over a hedge. Theres a