Thanks for all the offers lads but I got in contact with a gamekeeper down south so with a 6 hour round trip I came back with a sprocker both parents good workers. Sire was springer dam was sprocker so a little more springer in the mix and hopefully the bit of cocker to just tone it down a bit as it also going to be a house dog. Had chance to see father working if could have got there during day but never got chance. As for not wanting a terrier that's just down to not wanting to dig mate. In the week I do a lot of mooching on my own so I like to keep moving and keep quiet. I hunt with my pal