I just don’t get the anamosity its not some accidental mating its a deliberate mating to get what the breeder ( C J) obviously wants for type of hunting & ground he works & whether its a cross you would have or not have is irrelevant. Personally they have too much collie for me but i wish Collie John all the very best with them & from pics they look lovely healthy pups. My first dog was a collie lab cross & she caught a good few rabbits on lamp & in daytime obviously no where near as many as my lurchers. What amount of running dog does it take in a cross to be called a lurc