stop.end 4,079 Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, WILF said: Politicians have not planned with indigenous British people in mind since 1947 ! We can all see that now the horse has bolted mate. As I have said before, for an ordinary bloke to talk about Labour or Tory any more is just ridiculous…..these people shouldn’t even figure in our thinking when discussing the future of our politics. The sooner we write them off, the sooner we can try to fix things. That's the thing...they have never consulted with the indigenous British people because it's all been a slow tactical chess game and were just all pawns until they get what they want very soon... A.I. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,389 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 @sandymere you could have peaked too soon with the champagne 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,191 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 24/07/2022 at 11:39, Borr said: They inherited low inflation, low mortgage rates tied to low interest rates. 14k police, but an untold number of illegal and legal immigrants, countering all investment in NHS schools etc. Gave power to devolved government and allowed them to still make decisions on English matters, Paternity leave great if you can live on £150 a week. NHS direct is another desperate attempt to divert services and take heat off of a poorly managed underfunded NHS Record number of students that couldn't earn enough to repay debts. And left industries short where everyone did useless degrees. Free eye tests as Specsavers and boots make the money on glasses. Cleanest rivers and beaches as industry was all sold off to China and Thatcher shut the mining down , Blair did same for steel.. Everyone got a job in a call centre. Sold Britain's gold reserves off at the lowest possible denominator, gave the banks an undisclosed sum that will never be released. All filled their coffers , champagne socialists .started war in Iraq to keep bush happy. Banned hunting with dogs. Basically caused until damage to the UK , and left us in critical recession for years, Tory's haven't done a great job outside of Covid and brexit. But let's not pretend Blair did Britain any favours. Introduced gambling in UK on a scale not seen in Europe before utilising internet , infiltrating the most vulnerable in their own homes...TV ads etc. The list goes on. I don't like either side particularly. But it's naive to believe they've done us favours.....with our own money. f**k me Joe...that's a good post...lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,191 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 24/07/2022 at 13:26, chartpolski said: To be honest I think most vote labour for various reasons. The main reason up here is "me da and grandad did, so will I" Others mistakenly vote Labour because they think Labour is for the working man......they're not, they may have been at one time, but certainly not now. Some vote labour ideologicaly, they want a communist , socialist society where everyone is equal, but it's never worked and allways ends in misery for the working classes. Im not saying The Torys much better bet, I've said many times they are all shithouses........as Richard Littlejohn said, " give someone power and they will abuse it, give someone absolute power and they will absolutely abuse it". Any one can cut and paste from biased sources, anything from the Morning Star can be rebutted by quoting from the Mail , and vice versa. One thing to remember though, unemployment has allways been higher when labour left office, than when it took office. Cheers. I'd guess at least 90% of us on here are working class from working class families...so a labour party in action and not name only would probably be the party we would lean towards...but no chance..come on Corbyn was basically spouting communism and Abbot would be given the purse strings!!! ... Blair was an unbelievable Statesman, said the right things and acted perfectly at the right time, jumped on the good feel of the 90s and played it....what a wanker! Having any type of nationalistic view is considered racist, why? Surely all countries should be nationalist first... none of the main parties do what they say, Boris had a good go with Brexit but I fear that will all be lost... I voted Tory last time as I couldn't think of having Corbyn running the country...but I know it matters not... its been said enough on here, they are all the same at the end of the day.. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 4,499 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, NEWKID said: f**k me Joe...that's a good post...lol Think it's this Cornish rattler haha... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,867 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, NEWKID said: I'd guess at least 90% of us on here are working class from working class families...so a labour party in action and not name only would probably be the party we would lean towards...but no chance..come on Corbyn was basically spouting communism and Abbot would be given the purse strings!!! ... Blair was an unbelievable Statesman, said the right things and acted perfectly at the right time, jumped on the good feel of the 90s and played it....what a wanker! Having any type of nationalistic view is considered racist, why? Surely all countries should be nationalist first... none of the main parties do what they say, Boris had a good go with Brexit but I fear that will all be lost... I voted Tory last time as I couldn't think of having Corbyn running the country...but I know it matters not... its been said enough on here, they are all the same at the end of the day.. I was working class but recently, and especially since I purchased a claret shoffel gillet, I would now consider myself middle class. We even have a bird who does our ironing. Fck you povs 1 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,191 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said: I was working class but recently, and especially since I purchased a claret shoffel gillet, I would now consider myself middle class. We even have a bird who does our ironing. Fck you povs I had already put you in the other 10%, my lord... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,867 Posted July 25, 2022 Report Share Posted July 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, W. Katchum said: Perks of being a mason eh Honestly and I'm not making this up....the woman who does our ironing is the worshipful masters wife . We still have to pay though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 23 hours ago, DIDO.1 said: I was working class but recently, and especially since I purchased a claret shoffel gillet, I would now consider myself middle class. We even have a bird who does our ironing. Fck you povs Did you buy the gillet with the money you would have spent on a season ticket? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 20,867 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Nicepix said: Did you buy the gillet with the money you would have spent on a season ticket? Season ticket? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, DIDO.1 said: Season ticket? Are one of the distant ManU supporters like Newkid? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nicepix said: Are one of the distant ManU supporters like Newkid? Newkid has been through extensive vetting, personality and Man U history tests, and is considered a bone fide Man U supporter ( second class). He has a further 10 initiation tests to complete before he can be considered a first class Man U supporter. The first of these will be to appropriate 10 Leeds Utd scarfs to be used as trophies. They must be taken in fair combat from Leeds fans over 6 ft in height and below age 60. I am confident he will complete this challenge with ease. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nicepix 5,650 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, jukel123 said: Newkid has been through extensive vetting, personality and Man U history tests, and is considered a bone fide Man U supporter ( second class). He has a further 10 initiation tests to complete before he can be considered a first class Man U supporter. The first of these will be to appropriate 10 Leeds Utd scarfs to be used as trophies. They must be taken in fair combat from Leeds fans over 6 ft in height and below age 60. I am confident he will complete this challenge with ease. What if one of them is a 6' 5" Norwegian born in Leeds now living in Manchester? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hambone 948 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, Nicepix said: What if one of them is a 6' 5" Norwegian born in Leeds now living in Manchester? Bjorn again Manc? 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jukel123 6,570 Posted July 26, 2022 Report Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, Nicepix said: What if one of them is a 6' 5" Norwegian born in Leeds now living in Manchester? In that case he joins that elite branch of gold star Man Utd supporters. There are only 3 of us at present. myself, Eric Cantona ( thanks for him by the way) and big Alex himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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