sandymere

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A while down the track it will be interesting to review this thread. I will be one who was right

When have they said it doesn't stop infection? Please link to them.

So all experts are wrong remember that kid would be the one at risk of Covid. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/23/five-children-have-died-of-coronavirus-in-uk-study-reveals

They know because they are studying it, ie testing groups of people to get those very statistics, do you really think epidemiologist haven't done all this before? Like all those specialists don't know what they are doing?

The vaccine will most likely boost your longer term up immunity.

Show me this large concensus. This is the scientific concensus. https://www.immunology.org/celebrate-vaccines/public-engagement/guide-childhood-vaccinations/how-vaccines-work What whitty etc mean is that not everyone who gets a vaccine becomes immune as their immune response doesn't recognise the vaccine, some already have the infection when vaccinated, some get infected before the vaccine starts to work but in the majority of cases the vaccine works. So some vaccinated people can spread a disease but Epidemiologist take these factors into account when estimating the num

Yes but that is not some great insight you've found the epidemiologist who calculate death rates are aware of the non symptomatic individuals when calculation outcomes they're studied epidemiology and the death rate is to high.

"There is a theoretical risk that you could pass the virus on to others despite being vaccinated,” ( Kirsten Hokeness, Ph.D., director of Bryant University’s new Center for Health and Behavioral Sciences.) But virus transmission by vaccinated people hopefully won’t be the case. The goal of the vaccine is to create immunological memory in the body so that when you encounter the virus in the future, your immune system rapidly ramps up and attacks the virus very quickly before you get sick. Therefore, as long as the vaccine boasts a strong immunological response, it is likely that the virus

Wrong. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/will-natural-herd-immunity-end-the-pandemic/

Sorry that's wrong, if that were true then vaccines just wouldn't be as effective as they are in such cases as smallpox. Covid virus can live for a while outside of a person etc but not long so spread is limited and for the majority of people who are vaccinated don't get covid to the extent of starting to shed the virus so don't pass it on. So the virus gets isolated and the R rate drops until it is either eradicated as in smallpox or it becomes manageable. Its basic herd immunity via vaccine. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/herd-immunity-and-coronaviru

We know because we have a massive knowledge of vaccines and how the body works re immunity, its all out there produced by some very clever people over many years of research and study, bit more than the antivac basis. https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/mrna-vaccine-myths-anti-vax-pseudoscience-on-covid-19-vaccines/ Start looking a good information sources to base your decisions on.

T That's a testing station not a vaccination site, we know that the track and trace is a fiasco, not that I'm saying that the vaccination programme is going well, but that doesn't mean that the vaccine is a problem, rather that the roll out is being mismanaged as has every part of the covid management.

If we don't vaccinate children we will not reach herd immunity and if we do vaccinate children we protect the few children that do die or become seriously ill so a win win situation. Vaccinate as many people as possible so that we can move on whilst saving as many lives as possible in the short term and long term.

No its not well documented, children do die of Covid etc, middle aged people do die of Covid and suffer longer term health issues, older people do die of Covid, the vaccines have been tested as all vaccines are and have passed those tests, so lets not start silly name calling, I said above i don't lie. I back up my info with evidence from reliable sources such as peer reviewed articles on pub med or medical/scientific output. People will make their own choices but as a nurse i should promote science, evidence etc and counter the misinformation. so if people don't vaccinate where possible