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My apologies for the poor quality of this image. The original was not very good and I was given this even worse quality picture from the cousin who owns the original. It is of a great uncle of mine and, if you can make it out, one of his Bedlingtons. Even given the fact that all the family members that I met from that era were small in height, probably due to poor nutrition before they became of a working age and then the working age was before they were out of their teens more than genetics, the dog looks big. 

I have studied this image many times and reckon it to be at least 16" and probably around the 26 lb mark. The old Bedlingtons had more substance to them than the modern breed.  Not the sort of terrier that would be ideal to push on to a fox in tight places. I do however believe that this was the type  that the men of yesterday considered had something to offer as an outcross/new blood from time to time.

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Visited my mate today he has alsorts Of old pics, prints,paintings etc,loads of books aswell, took a few pics of some of them next time I’m there I’ll get some more, pics took off me phone so not the best, atb At 

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He even has bottles of eye drops on the  book shelf all terrain nothing gets in the way of his reading lol

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1 minute ago, bull mcabe said:

He even has bottles of eye drops on the  book shelf all terrain nothing gets in the way of his reading lol

He’s on some them pics mate he’s getting on a bit now, should see he’s albums mate some serious photos, I love his stick collection he’s an otter stick with over 150 studs he’s put in it himself so he’s done a fair bit, atb At 

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29 minutes ago, All-terrain said:

He’s on some them pics mate he’s getting on a bit now, should see he’s albums mate some serious photos, I love his stick collection he’s an otter stick with over 150 studs he’s put in it himself so he’s done a fair bit, atb At 

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A serious collection fair play to the man. I'd love to see it. 

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23 minutes ago, bull mcabe said:

A serious collection fair play to the man. I'd love to see it. 

I wish I could show you it mate especially he’s old albums 😳 sadly he’s getting on a bit now and had to give he’s hounds up through Ill health, and age, I can see it in he’s eyes what it’s done to him 😞 if any serious book collectors on here are interested in he’s books he’s seliing the lot!  like I say Ill  health and age has caught up with him, I feel bad even asking but he did say to me see can I sell he’s books etc as he’s moving soon.selling he’s land where hounds was kept and gonna find somewhere comfy, atb At 

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Sad really AT, like has been said, all that knowledge and experience slowly disappearing, we wont see the likes of such men again.

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26 minutes ago, Rabbit Hunter said:

Sad really AT, like has been said, all that knowledge and experience slowly disappearing, we wont see the likes of such men again.

I walked around he’s old kennels today it was sad mate, he’s lived a life of a huntsman though, and got to hunt some of the best countryside there is, a life devoted to hounds and he followed he’s passion over fifty years, just sad like you say when it all comes to an end, atb At 

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15 hours ago, All-terrain said:

I walked around he’s old kennels today it was sad mate, he’s lived a life of a huntsman though, and got to hunt some of the best countryside there is, a life devoted to hounds and he followed he’s passion over fifty years, just sad like you say when it all comes to an end, atb At 

Sounds like a man you could spend hours with and the stories would just keep coming. Was it a foot pack he had?

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On 01/06/2019 at 22:05, Rabbit Hunter said:

P3D, what year (roughly) do you think the first black terriers, as we know them today, appeared?

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Some early photographs with Black terriers,

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Before 1930 above.

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Dobson on the left.

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Kendlal Otterhounds 1930

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Spartacus, Great Grandson of Smithy who was born 1972 so this must late 70's , maybe 76-78

Note Gould calls them all Black Fell types.

 

 

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