Barrie

I use the same charger for both flat top and button top

Paul was also one of the Core Marchers who walked from Scotland to London to join up with the Hyde Park Rally, held on 10th July 1997, as a protest against the then "proposed" Hunting Act. Paul was also a VERY SIGNIFICANT contributor in the fight against the hunting ban in Scotland (the "Watson Bill") and without Paul and others of his ilk Scotland wouldn't be in such a good position as it is today. As Two Crows says.... a "nice chap", but also in my view a "proper man" too and someone for whom I have nothing but the greatest of respect. Crow, thank you for sharing

Proper job mate

How old Airwick.... very nice indeed

Wild bird I can guarantee you there's not a vet in the country who will dock a pup at that age, hence the difficulties you've already experienced.

No Wild Bird.... I suspect the time scales you were reading quite possibly related to the requirements for micro chipping AFTER the tail docking had been performed.

R.H. I agree entirely and if there was anything at all in this world that would influence me in that direction it would be just that. At 74 I’m very conscious of the fact that mine is probably the last generation that will have known the likes of “Old Jack” at a truly personal level, and that only one generation on the same will apply to the likes of his son Joe (one of my absolute life time heros as I was growing up) and my father who led me down the path to where I am today (and to whom I have a lot to be grateful for). But over the recent past, I’ve also spent far too much time in front of Government Inquiries and similar, where I’ve had to dispel and repair some of the crap which has been written in the past, typically by those who were simply massaging their own over inflated egos. Believe me it’s never been an easy task. My father spent his 21st birthday in a German prisoner of war camp and along with countless others saw and endured things which we couldn’t even imagine, or relate to today. They did it so that future generations could live their lives as they chose. I may be naïve and possibly a little bit selfish too, but I’d like to think I honour his life and his/their sacrifices much better by using what limited time and energy I have left to do what I do now, rather than spending it committing my memories to paper and running the risk of making the same mistake as others have done in the past. J.M.H.O. - Barrie P.S. I think we all have a right to get annoyed at what politicians have done to our way of life, but I can't imagine how this old boy must have felt

I'm not sure just how advisable that would be, sadly we live in an entirely different and far less tolerant world today. I think some memories are probably best left untold, or at best occasionally shared amongst close friends over a pint. Without some of those other "special memories", it would make for a pretty boring book in the end and one which would never do justice to some very capable and knowledgeable "dog men" who were very much part of my growing up. That sort of thing has happened a bit too much in the past and albeit well intentioned, on occasions has also come back to bite us. J.M.H.O. - Barrie

Yes Sandy, the first edition of Pedigree Unknown is one of my favourite books (there's one in my book case right now) and I remember Drabble as a frequent visitor to the family home when he was researching it. Unfortunately, each subsequent edition held less and less attraction for me, as he gradually changed his attitude towards traditional "Black Country ways" (as they became less and less fashionable, they also became less "market friendly") and they were gradually dropped from his book. To me, the more recent editions are a mere shadow of the original. That first edition also contains some pictures of these same dogs, unfortunately at some point Phil offended them and as a result was "strongly advised" not to use their photos any more. He of course "respected" those "wishes" . Y.I.S. - Barrie

Wild bird..... I'm afraid there appears to be more than a little confusion here. There's not a vet in the country who would dock your pup once it gets past 5 days old, it would be illegal for them to do so and they would most certainly lose their license to practice. It should have been done at between 3 and 5 days of age. The only exception to that would be, if it was necessarily performed in order to treat an existing injury (typically a tail injury). Other completely unrelated procedures such as spaying etc do not feature in the equation. I hope this helps clarify matters - Barrie

Hopefully these few old pictures and some of recollections from my early teens (the late 1950’s and early 1960’s) may be of some interest. They’re all old style “rag whippets” and pre date the requirement for a whippet to be registered with the Kennel Club in order to enter a race. Typically these dogs ran from about 14-20 lbs (sometimes smaller) and anything past say the mid 20’s would be questioned as to whether it was actually a true whippet (rather than maybe a whippet x greyhound). At that time, my father ran a “drinkers pub” in the heart of the Black Country (aka the Industrial Midlands). In the main it was frequented by steelworkers and almost exclusively those of the “sporting variety”. If you were known to have a genuine interest in Whippets, Staffords, Poultry or Pigeons then you were always made to feel welcome. But if not, you’d have very little in common with the regulars and be treated with a fair degree of suspicion. For as long as I can remember, this photograph always hung above the fireplace in the bar and that would be at least 60 years back and beyond. In those days the whippets ran in straight lines between strings and without muzzles, if they crossed out of their lane they were immediately disqualified, but rarely did. They were all hand slipped and ran to a rag waved by their owner at the end of the track. With hand slipping, you listened for the gun to go off and as soon as it did the dog would be flung through the air and hit the ground running. It was literally a “flying start”, very much an art in itself and it was often said that a good slipper could make you a yard to begin. So determined were these little dogs and so fierce their hatred for the “rag”, they would take hold of it in full flight. And in order to prevent them injuring themselves, the “rag man” would have to follow them through, swing them through the air still latched on and catch them under their arm (once again an art in itself). Before each race the dogs were publicly weighed by the Weighing Steward and then handicapped in accordance with the old “yards for pounds rule”, where for example a 19lb dog would be given a one yard start over a dog weighing 20lbs and so on. At that time there was none of this “handicapping on performance”, where a poorly performing dog was given a “fair chance” to beat something undeniably better. In my day, the weighing in process was normally carried out using an old fashioned balance scale which I always knew as a “Steelyard”. This was always carried out in complete silence, the only person who spoke was the Weighing Steward and anyone foolish enough to do otherwise was automatically viewed as “attempting to influence the Steward” and ran the very real risk of receiving immediate rough justice right there and then. “Old Jack”, my father’s mentor and benefactor, weighing a dog with the same “steelyards” I have at home today. My Dad was given a bitch pup by “Old Jack’s” son Joe, a very close friend and a man who’d inherited all the talents of his father. Throughout my entire life I only ever knew any of them to “gift” dogs, and then only to people who had earned their trust (not a mean feat in itself). Around the same time, a brand new soft drink was launched and as a Publican my father was being bombarded with advertising literature and requests to stock it. The drink was called Tango and that’s what they named the pup. “Tango” made 19.5lbs and earned herself a bit of a reputation. Between them they’d always had good dogs and were definitely “the ones to beat”, but this bitch was that little bit special and to plenty that were about at that time she was viewed as the best that there was. In fact so confident were Dad and his mates in that bitch and their ability to present her properly, that they had a challenge out to run any dog in the country, yards for pounds, over 120 yards, for a decent side stake of anything up to a maximum of £100 a side. When you consider just how long ago that was and the fact they were only ordinary working men, that was a lot of confidence to have, particularly when you consider I’d be about 13 or 14 at the time and when I started my first job at 17 my first week’s wages was £3/4s/2d (that’s about £3.21p in modern day money). Now before anyone shoots me down, I’m not saying there weren’t other good dogs about at that time (in fact there were plenty), or that there weren’t any which might have been able to beat her. But what I can say with my hand on my heart and 100% certainty is that of the handful or so which rose to the challenge, no one ever walked away with the purse. My apologies for banging on a bit, but once I’d found out these old photos the memories just came flooding back too. Y.I.S. and with the greatest respect for those no longer with us – Barrie P.S. I remember seeing a letter from a famous Hollywood actor who was very well known for keeping Staffords. It was a letter to “Old Jack” inviting him to America and offering to set him up with a house and pay him whatever he wished to “look after the dogs”. When his friends and family asked him what he was planning to do, his reply was “Why the f*** would I want to go to America, I don’t know anybody over there” and he really did mean it. They certainly don’t make ‘em like that any more.

My apologies and I agree it does look a bit bad.... Originally it was one of the Tony B'Liar set of posters we did for the Marches and Demos, but the THL Avatar gizmo seems to crop it down and mainly leaves his sickly grin Kindest Regards - Barrie

Two Crows, I fully appreciate what you’re saying and that your not advocating that we do nothing either. Nor do I have any doubts about whether you’ve done your fair share in the past and I take my hat off to you for that too. But with all due respect, I have to disagree with you about us not being able to change or influence things, and if I might I’ll give you one such example of several, which as a terrierman is very close to my heart. The Animal Welfare Act 2006 covers amongst many other things tail docking. This proposed Bill was at a very advanced stage, it had had gone through all the various processes, public consultation, written submissions, committee hearings etc, etc and had now reached the “Government White Paper” stage. For those not familiar with the term, “White Papers” are defined as being “Policy documents produced by the Government that set out their proposals for future legislation. They are often published as Command Papers and may include a draft version of a Bill that is being planned”. In my world that translates as “Discussions are all over, this is what we’re doing.” Following on from the publication of the White Paper, the NWTF attended a meeting in London with DEFRA officials, alongside a range of other interested parties from all sides, which from memory included RSPCA, LACS, BASC, CA, Kennel Club, the British Veterinary Association and others. The meeting opened with us being told “The Minister (Elliot Morley) was totally opposed to cosmetic mutilation, but also recognised there were very genuine reasons, based upon animal welfare grounds, why certain breeds of gundogs should be exempted from the Bill’s proposed tail docking ban.” That meant everything else was out of the frame, including working terriers. I won’t bore you with the blow by blow details, but what I will say is that during that meeting the NWTF put forward a very strong case why working terriers should also be exempt. That was the Tuesday, that night when we got home there was an email thanking us for our contribution and inviting to a further meeting in London on the Thursday. On Thursday we were informed working terrier would also be exempt from the ban. I’m not suggesting we can win every battle and I know we’ve all had our setbacks, but it’s a fact that you’ll never know unless you try. J.M.H.O. - Barrie P.S. It's not as if I've nothing better to do with my time, my garage clear out is now 24 years overdue (as I was reminded this morning) P.P.S. I found this document in the Scottish Parliament archives, it's pretty much the same arguments we put forward in relation to tail docking at the meeting with DEFRA. Unfortunately in Scotland we were less successful, but at least we gave it a shot. http://www.parliament.scot/S5_Environment/Meeting Papers/050_National_Working_Terrier_Federation.pdf

What we have on the table is a Bill which clearly states that amongst other things it proposes to…. Protect foxes and hares in law. End the hunting of all wild mammals with dogs. Remove all the current exceptions to the offence of hunting wild mammals with dogs. Make it an offence to “search for, stalk, flush, chase, pursue or course” a wild mammal with a dog. Make the landowner who gives permission for hunting on his/her land vicariously liable for any offences committed (so that’s any permission you had gone). Reverse the burden of proof and put the onus on the defendent to show that their actions fell within an exception to the ban (and they’ve already stated their intention to remove all the current exceptions). So unlike murderers, rapists, paedophiles, grooming gangs, drug dealers, terrorists and other pillars of society who are all presumed to be “innocent until proven guilty”, the reverse will apply to us and we’ll be presumed to be guilty from the very outset and face the onerous task of attempting to prove that we’re not. Increase the maximum penalty for hunting a wild mammal with a dog to a £40,000 fine or 5 years imprisonment. Increase the time limit for bringing prosecutions The Government have asked for your views on these proposals and make no mistake it’s not going to go away. Yet there are “dog men” advocating that we say and do nothing, that’s regardless of the fact that every anti in the country will be writing in supporting these proposals and saying they don’t go far enough. If you think you're f****d now, then you ain't seen nothing yet. You'd best start taking some relaxation classes, cos you're on the verge of being "spit roasted" as well !!! I think I’m going back to bed, I feel a "no sex" headache coming on LOL