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With regards to collie build, when I bought my first lurcher (just shy of thirty years ago) I was forever looking out for racy, leggy collies. However, since I stopped buying dogs with any sighthound blood I rarely think about their physical appearance. Well, that's not strictly true, but it's definitely my second or third consideration behind a) the pups character and b) the parents' character. I personally think my current pup's an ugly sod but he's got a great character. I once compared him and his older cousin Noggin by saying that if they were Hollywood actors then Noggin would be Brad Pitt or George Clooney whereas Ned would be Robin Williams or Harvey Keitel. I'm well aware that his character won't necessarily help him to catch anything ...but it will effect his temperament (which might effect it) and it'll make it a lot more likely that I'll want to spend quality time with him.

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12 years? I've got collars and leads I've had longer than that ffs. Who are you to tell someone they shouldn't breed their dogs? Especially someone who talks sensibly, not like the drivel you come out

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This post is a strange one you either need a running dog or you don’t I personally think on most people’s land this is from a level headed point of view with no disrespect meant to cj there end up piss poor on most people’s land as catch dogs as I personally think you can’t rely on brain power An temperament alone to make catches from gear that’s fleeing for life you need a moderate turn of speed that can be used as an when needed plus there only get slower with age as a dog with a little more speed behind it will be more capable still but I can see the use if your only wanting a dog to mark up,pin to nets an the odd rabbit in cover but can’t really see much reason for the cross to modern common lurcher man it seems like a backwards step and your purposely trying to restrict your self when the aim with any sort of breeding is to breed better than you’ve got I mean you could of just went out an bought a work bred pure collie in stead of breeding it’d of done the same job  if speeds not needed 

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15 hours ago, Black neck said:

No one was ready for that reply 

Fair play 

Is Katchum your hero now black neck.

Since he ripped into you about you talking about beans all the time.

You don't mention them at all now ??

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32 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Like you said tho, MOST people’s land, not everybody’s land an he ain’t bred them for everybody or even most, we could all find a fault or 2 even in most lurchers?

 

 

Exactly that katch just a opinion with hopefully no hard feelings meant to no one    All Lurchers have faults even my own??‍♂️But there’s no argument of specialists bred dogs when there do the same as most Lurchers are expected to do but less any way yeah I understand that his dogs his rules bred for his needs I respect that but still think after there ready to get started there be on the merry go round as there no be what people are expecting from the dog not trying to be wise or a comedian or out just adding a honest opinion with no bull shit 

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42 minutes ago, king said:

Is Katchum your hero now black neck.

Since he ripped into you about you talking about beans all the time.

You don't mention them at all now ??

Just thought it was a good reply mate 

And no I dont mention the b word anymore much as it wernt just katchum complaining there was a few miserable feckers reporting me to the Oracle about it

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34 minutes ago, Black neck said:

Just thought it was a good reply mate 

And no I dont mention the b word anymore much as it wernt just katchum complaining there was a few miserable feckers reporting me to the Oracle about it

Yeah I've noticed the lack of posts. But once you've bean there and done it, move on I suppose ?

 

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john obviously has come to the conclusion that he dose not rely need a lurcher for his type of hunting, and that is up to him, I think these pups will be less scatty than pure collies because of the greyhound blood. it will be most interesting to hear about there progress in a totally honest way, whatever the outcome.

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1 hour ago, Black neck said:

Just thought it was a good reply mate 

And no I dont mention the b word anymore much as it wernt just katchum complaining there was a few miserable feckers reporting me to the Oracle about it

Ffs you won't even use the word..bean...

You say the..b.. word lol.

The internet bullys have had a massive effect on you BN 

Just say It mun.

BEAN BEAN BEAN BEAN BEAN

??

 

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25 minutes ago, king said:

Ffs you won't even use the word..bean...

You say the..b.. word lol.

The internet bullys have had a massive effect on you BN 

Just say It mun.

BEAN BEAN BEAN BEAN BEAN

??

 

Plenty of closet beanies on this site I reckon. Come on ffs, it's 2019. If we can have talk of lezzers, beanflickers if you like ?, arse bandits, muslims etc on here, how on earth is using the word BEAN upsetting people?! ?

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41 minutes ago, shaaark said:

Plenty of closet beanies on this site I reckon. Come on ffs, it's 2019. If we can have talk of lezzers, beanflickers if you like ?, arse bandits, muslims etc on here, how on earth is using the word BEAN upsetting people?! ?

Shh 

There watching 

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3 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I never had a problem with the beans subject, craic on I said, I only asked it wasn’t in every thread, mentioned it once an never reported anybody for it, but hey I suppose some folk just feel the need to call others bullies ?

? lol

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it all boils down to what you actually want or expect in a lurcher. katch says he doesn't see the point in small lurchers. I wouldn't want anything above about 21tts.i don't lamp. I require a dog to Bush, hit. cover, reliably mark holes and have enough speed to catch bolters & odd daytime rabbits & pheasant etc. if you lamp & want other stuff obviously they wouldn't suit. 

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1 hour ago, shaaark said:

Plenty of closet beanies on this site I reckon. Come on ffs, it's 2019. If we can have talk of lezzers, beanflickers if you like ?, arse bandits, muslims etc on here, how on earth is using the word BEAN upsetting people?! ?

Maybe the grasses were denied beans in there diet as a kid.

And have flashbacks when they see the word bean.

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23 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I never had a problem with the beans subject, craic on I said, I only asked it wasn’t in every thread, mentioned it once an never reported anybody for it, but hey I suppose some folk just feel the need to call others bullies ?

Ok ok I did say you was a bully but I was wrong its become apparent you couldn't bully your way out a wet paper bag 

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