lukey 1,620 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Answer the elusive point before you go Joe. Why shake free from the yoke of Westminister just to dance to Brussels tune. Eh obviously so we can run about wae our faces painted for a few days shouting freedom, just think how good it would be! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,725 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? Edited August 2, 2016 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 There is no way Scotland could stand on its own feet without uk or Eu Tiny population....how would they generate the 10 billion plus a year for its NHS Plus what's the yearly benefits bill The money has to come from somewhere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,725 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? No Spain would veto them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,332 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulnix 426 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? Would Scotland risk it though ? They need one or the other and the EU wouldn't say yes or no until they applied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? No Spain would veto them. it was mentioned before, that only a majority might only be needed today it was confirmed scotland could be placed in a "transitional holding pen" after article 50 is triggered wich could prevent scotland having to reapply Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? Would Scotland risk it though ? They need one or the other and the EU wouldn't say yes or no until they applied. yes because voters were made many promises that werent honoured, uk no longer offers security, solidarity and stability Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Lets face it Scotland can not survive as an independent country.....it needs a sugar daddy Its a lot of noise for only 1.6 million people who voted to remain in the Eu.....1 million wanted to leave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? yes, scotland economy would be run in the interest of scotland, in the long run, it can only be better than the status quo.. no billions paid towards high speed rail that the country will never see, house of lords, trident etc etc the money the eu grants scotland will be garenteed to go to scotland, not get lost in westminster.. we get all the gains from the eu and control our own economy.. Edited August 2, 2016 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,332 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? yes, scotland economy would be run in the interest of scotland, in the long run, it can only be better than the status quo.. no billions paid towards high speed rail that the country will never see, house of lords, trident etc etc the money the eu grants scotland will be garenteed to go to scotland, not get lost in westminster.. we get all the gains from the eu and control our own economy.. Don't know if anyone told you, but relying on simeone else who makes the rules you have to obey and that you don't get to vote on is NOT independance.......it's the complete opposite. So, I will ask YET again what is the logic in costing millions to get out so that it can cost more millions to get back into something else? It's not about independance is it ?.......it's about being f***ing greedy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,008 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? yes, scotland economy would be run in the interest of scotland, in the long run, it can only be better than the status quo.. no billions paid towards high speed rail that the country will never see, house of lords, trident etc etc the money the eu grants scotland will be garenteed to go to scotland, not get lost in westminster.. we get all the gains from the eu and control our own economy.. I don`t suppose there is any remote possibility of you developing the intelligence to realise that without the UK putting money in to the EU there`s not going to be many grants available, certainly not enough to even start making up for what Scotland will lose through the MOD moving stuff south, you`ll soon end up more bolloxed than Greece, and at least they get better weather to encourage tourism Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? yes, scotland economy would be run in the interest of scotland, in the long run, it can only be better than the status quo.. no billions paid towards high speed rail that the country will never see, house of lords, trident etc etc the money the eu grants scotland will be garenteed to go to scotland, not get lost in westminster.. we get all the gains from the eu and control our own economy.. That cash don't come without conditions, you can't just take your money and do what you want.. It don't work like that.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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