Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? yes, scotland economy would be run in the interest of scotland, in the long run, it can only be better than the status quo.. no billions paid towards high speed rail that the country will never see, house of lords, trident etc etc the money the eu grants scotland will be garenteed to go to scotland, not get lost in westminster.. we get all the gains from the eu and control our own economy.. That cash don't come without conditions, you can't just take your money and do what you want.. It don't work like that.. what about the current situation, meeting those conditions and being granted money for your country and westminster decides to keep? should it work like that Edited August 2, 2016 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,725 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? Aye but if you leave the union then you'll be governed by Brussels then though Joe. you agree scotland would be accepted in the eu, if it voted to leave the uk? No Spain would veto them. it was mentioned before, that only a majority might only be needed today it was confirmed scotland could be placed in a "transitional holding pen" after article 50 is triggered wich could prevent scotland having to reapply Might be and could be......lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) could be worse mate, could be "we are the people"... we are governed by westminster, not the eu.. id like to see scotlands economy managed in the interest of scotland, not westminster... complain i post, then keep posting... cake and eat it? You have done your level best to swerve this question loads of times mate, you know and I know and everybody knows that countries in the EU are governed in the best interests of the EU......so........I will ask yet again, what is the logic in gaining independance in order to give it away again? Is there any logic in doing that, yes or no? yes, scotland economy would be run in the interest of scotland, in the long run, it can only be better than the status quo.. no billions paid towards high speed rail that the country will never see, house of lords, trident etc etc the money the eu grants scotland will be garenteed to go to scotland, not get lost in westminster.. we get all the gains from the eu and control our own economy.. I don`t suppose there is any remote possibility of you developing the intelligence to realise that without the UK putting money in to the EU there`s not going to be many grants available, certainly not enough to even start making up for what Scotland will lose through the MOD moving stuff south, you`ll soon end up more bolloxed than Greece, and at least they get better weather to encourage tourism i did read some myth in an really old book that there is countries in the world with populations similar to scotland and smaller, that do just fine on there own without the uk, they might have different priorities, might not waste billions on shaddowing the good ol usa for a seat at the table, but its said they can sleep at night knowning that, keeping them selfs to them selfs.... has to be a myth mate.... Edited August 2, 2016 by Joe1888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,327 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Joe you must be a politician because basically you are telling f***ing porky pies mate ! Lol You are calling it "Independance" to appeal to the stupid but actually it's nothing of the sort that Sturgeon and her poisonous ilk want.......what they want is to make themselves safe in the EU cradle knowing how that gravy train works and knowing they will be good for 200k a year plus the exes from now until the cows come home.......they are selling Scitlands people out to the unelected in Brussels for their own sake and modelling it as some Mel Gibson film. It's as see through as f**k Joe, you have been sussed matey 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
C556 351 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 The funny thing is, the money for the grants the EU give to Scotland, comes from Britain! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 I'd bet these other "Scotland sized countries" Joe says are doing well do a lot of things differently than we do here.. The standard of living will not be the same.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,028 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's all getting a bit embarrassing this independence thing it's splitting Scotland Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's all getting a bit embarrassing this independence thing it's splitting ScotlandThey won't be happy until it's NI mk2 up there some of them mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Which department of the SNP did you say you worked for Joe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,028 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's going to cause bother all this bitterness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,327 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's going to cause bother all this bitterness None of the SMPs will have to worry about it mate, they won't be close enough to smell the peasants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 It's all getting a bit embarrassing this independence thing it's splitting ScotlandThey won't be happy until it's NI mk2 up there some of them mate. Well i wouldn't be opposed to that lol After a couple years of purges in all probability there wouldn't be any SNP support left ☺ trick or treat ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,327 Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Looks like the SNP media department has gone home for the evening ! Lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe1888 672 Posted August 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Looks like the SNP media department has gone home for the evening ! Lol haha, am here mate, on call 24/7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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