I you can't break a 6month old pup to livestock/teach it to jump/retrieve then you must be one dopey drip imho.they unspoilt and could give you season after season of enjoyment,burn 250 notes going lamping 3/4 times,they got some tidy blood in them,every f****r wants stuff for f**k all on here but the same knobs will charge what they want when they selling stuff-bunch of tramps,nothing better to do than try and make folk look a cnut.atb dc