Very few can/will be honest when it comes to the breeding of the blackdogs...sly matings, taking litters from untested dogs/bitches,breeding from known failure's,buying in stolen dogs and saying f**k all,fiddling peds...some folks will go to any length to get some poor cnuts lifes work...the list goes on...its a minefield...work what you got,test them properly,Be Honest with yourself and dont pass on your shite...will any of us still be able to work these little dogs to ground in say 10/15 yrs time??? I doubt it very much,best just tuck your teeth in,stop the bitching and being so bitter...enj