Walshie, that's a question I ask myself a lot now days, think some how we are dumbed down, how I don't know, the fire in our bellies has been extinguished, I don't care what any of you say, if the young teens early 20 year olds we have today had to endure the 1St or 2nd world war, we'd be fuxxed! What ever seems to go on in the world we just plod on, moan, light a tea light, moan on a forum , and carry on. Weird really don't know why, we seem to have definitely lost something!