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  1. FM, As you know the federation does not conduct its business on an open forum like THL. Members who attended the AGM last July will be familiar with our position. Just to prevent the wrong message from bringing terrier work and its defence into disrepute. The IWTF have been in discussion with the appropriate people regarding terrier work in Northern Ireland. These submissions and meetings are ongoing and we will update members in due course. A lot of progress has been made to date. The people who are going to make decisions regarding animal welfare and hunting do not read the Dail
  2. Shaneg, A lot of research has been done in the US on skin wounds (lesions) of humans with Diabetes. Google it (Diabetic lesions images) if you have a strong stomach. Some of the wounds are really bad. They seem to have decided that things like Dettol, Savlon, Peroxide can prevent the skin from healing completely. Dettol, Savlon Peroxide and other antiseptic and germ killing solutions are too harsh and can slow the new skin cells from developing. They are also not applying powders or gauze to these wounds as they want the inner part of the lesion to heal outwards. Scabbing over too soo
  3. Accip74, That's an important question. In french we have a proverb like this "to live happy, live hidden". True or false ? This is a permanent debate among french hunting organisations. The hate of anti is so strong, they will do everything to kill you, even hidden. It's a matter of religion for them. If you don't show who you are, what you do in a fair way, anti will stay free to tell awful and stupid arguments. If I just want hunt for few seasons for my old days, I can stay hidden. If I want my sons could teach to my grandchildren - and further more - how to hunt badgers with do
  4. Just my opinion TUFFTY but Jack Russell would have considered the Sealyham TYPE too big for his work. Rough coated white terriers probably was the foundation stock for Russell, Fox and Sealyham but the strains were selected for different quarry.
  5. Looking forward to a great weekend, lets hope the weather stays clear.
  6. Looks like the weather will be OK tomorrow. Should be a good turnout.
  7. A great working terrier show, hope the weather is good on Sunday.
  8. Looking forward to a good day. Genuine hunting men with working dogs supporting a great show.
  9. The use of terriers in the control of rats and other pests is what we as terriermen need to convey to the public. The ANTI's have been banging on for years about Fox hunting and have ignored the other pests that affect both the Farmer and now increasingly the Urban areas. Terriers and Ferrets along with Traps and correctly placed poisons are just part of the toolkit that a pest controller needs. If we broaden the debate to include all pests we make a stronger case for terriers in these roles. Remember that the docking of working dogs tails is dependant on the use of the dog.
  10. RW, Good article and could not be highlighted at a better time to the public. Check out an interesting interview with Bill Oddie (Animal/ Bird Conservationist) on the link below. He describes how he has to "Get a Man in" to deal with his super Rat problem near his home. Its amazing how his tolerance extends to only some mammals!!! He can't use poison because it could kill some of his birds of prey in the food chain. Its the same with the Animal Rights people, save the fox but kill every mouse and rat that comes near their house. Of course they won't do it......they "Get a
  11. CS, It would depend on the man asking for the service. Does he intend calling the pups Plummers? My answer would be no as he is fooling himself. I would ask him how he believes my dog will improve the working ability of his line. If he had a good reason to want to improve the line...maybe yes. Does his line have health issues. Definitely No. Just my take on it.
  12. JAGDS ain' t Pure... same as the rest of the Master race they were bred For Fox Terrier , Lakeland, Herding Breeds ETC ..look up their ORIGINS ... Pure as the driven (white) snow ......... The KC would love to have these on their "New Breed" list for next year. 700 terriers in the first kennel at one stage, I wonder how many went to ground?
  13. WM, I must admit that my knowledge of Plummers is not first hand and did not mean to be biased. I have dug over a pedigree wire fox terrier years ago and a Border more recently. There will always be exceptions to any breed and I am sure that every breed of terrier could have a sample that will go to ground. But if any strain that is only 30+ years old has health problems because of dominant sires it really is in trouble IMO. The Kennel Club took nearly 100 years to screw up nearly all of the registered breeds and to think that a working strain of Russell's was messed up by working (show)
  14. what have you to gain by this outcross ?? look at what's missing in what you have and address that problem, WM Can you outcross to a strain? Plummer himself called them his Russell pack. What does a Plummer terrier have that a regular Russell / hunt terrier will not do? They look like solid little dogs but to say they are all rounders seems to be an excuse for terriers that do not go to ground. Having a breed club for a strain of Russell's (with a certain colouring) smacks of Kennel Club snobbery to me. I have never seen a working Plummer (not sure there are any in Ir
  15. A great read Albert, looking forward to the Game fairs.
  16. Someone must know? Staff Patterdale?
  17. i made the post because you seem to be dismissing the blood lines that many of us have terriers bred down from as fictitious, and that these bloodline came from dogs bred since the 70-80s and that the black/brown strong terriers now called patterdales are bull crosses, as i have stated the lines with bull blood added are fairly well documented, but not all lines have this blood, although you have made some sweeping statements implying that these bloodlines are all bullshit i've bred a few with heavy heads and jaws but there is no staff in them just a few of your quotes I think everyo
  18. 29 lbs a big dog. Thanks for sharing fhe photos.
  19. Fit looking terrier, credit to you for keeping him in great condition. Probably asked already but what weight is he?
  20. Glyn, That is not the type of terrier being discussed with an obvious Bull influence. That is a wire /rough coated Fell terrier, same root stock as the Lakeland and Border. These dogs are around today, there is no indication of bull in this terrier. The post is about Bull influence in terrier lines (EBT, PIt, or Staff). Not sure what this photo adds to the post? Breay was dead when the staff was added to make the Patterdale IMO. You would have to show a photo of Breay or Buck with a terrier with bull influence to prove that they added it to the line. Showing anyone with T
  21. Honestly mate, this subject has been done to death! There will be several long and debated Threads on this Site about the merits and negatives. Shamo, I believe you are right, as long as there are people willing to muddy the waters then the Patterdale story will continue. Sure what harm if the romantic story of the ancient (1970) Fell strains (smooth tight black coats with bully heads) that never were known in the Patterdale area by the men that lived there persist. That it is nearly impossible to see a photo of anyone before 1960 with these bully headed black smooth worki
  22. Liam,Bosun11, I think everyone with eyes in their head now knows that the black terriers were created with small Staff blood. As such they are a bull/terrier cross just like a bull Russell cross. Why the breeders feel the need to keep it quiet as Liam said tells me that they are fooling the lads that are getting the pups. Along the way the "written pedigree" is false if they hide the bull inclusion. Because these men given the name of starting the strain do not tell us when it came into the line the MYTH that they all decended from 2 open coated fell (dark bedlington type) terriers wi
  23. its hard to get small ones today, they sound like very handy ones to have around, always prefered the smaller type myslef. atb, j Bosun11, This was the type I remember in Southern Ireland back in the 70's. The skinhead culture was not as evident as in the UK but there were pockets in the cities. These small staffs were everywhere at that time, some older Staff breeders must know where they came from. Mostly a dark red colouring with black muzzles if I remember correctly. The Stafford bitch on the right is similar in build, small, light, very agile. These staffs must hav
  24. JD, I agree, 20lb Bull terriers are hard to come by. When Bull blood is added to a terrier line, SIZE is what is lost in my opinion. The positives were head size, bone and dead gameness. The last one would be disputed as a positive by some. I think if you look at the history of "Hunt Terriers" i.e. terriers used exclusively for bolting Fox. Every professional terrier man working this type of dog would avoid bull blood in his line. They need to limit the size and the adding bull would push the weight up over 20lbs. Hunt terriers tend to be the old style Russell's in my opinion.
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