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FF, The story of this mans life you really could not make up. His older brother was schooled to inherit and become the wealthiest man in Britain. Hugh Lonsdale never remembers a time when he was not in the saddle, he dodged school and went out on his fathers estate, riding, shooting, hunting and living a will life. A mans life. he loved fighting (Boxing), the Lonsdale belt was named after him. His father totally ignored him and he grew to love the 70,000 acres around his home. He loved horses, working dogs of every type. Sold his title and went to America. His brother died and
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The Yellow Earl. A good read of a period in english history when hunting and dogs were the norm. 5th Earl of Lonsdale, reputed to have his own strain of working terrier. He kept a record of the breeding of his hounds and terriers. A man who lived life to the full.
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Another thread ruined.
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He had some control of the holding dogs, They were waiting on his command to take over once the herding dogs had moved the bull out. All of it done off horseback using a radio. Never saw the likes of it before. Would love to go on one of those hunts as well.
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Nah, give the pedigrees a skip for now The real sled dogs look nothing like huskies, rough looking harrier / collie crossbred types. But they can travel great distances. The real sled dogs ARE the huskies. Husky being an Inuit word for local village dog. There is no breed, as such, as a Husky. What you meant are the Spitz and Malamutes etc. They mustn't have explained this too well in the show. Cooney the clown trying to get another post deleted. Cooney being an inuit word for local village idiot If you read my post I said "Huskies AND Sled dogs" Sled dogs are w
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Nah, give the pedigrees a skip for now The real sled dogs look nothing like huskies, rough looking harrier / collie crossbred types. But they can travel great distances.
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What channel and time is it on please mate? Sunday 7 o'clock on Discovery Channel. First episode was different working dogs. No doubt there will be episodes with stupid stuff like 5 star pet hotels etc...definitely fast forward those parts.
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This series has started on Sky. Episode 1 was an excellent example of working dogs around the word. The guy in New Zealand hunting Wild Bulls in the forest is class. Has two types of dogs, herding and holding, fantastic control of both groups of dogs until he wants them to work. Saluki running dogs and the breeders in that area of the world. Huskies and sled dogs, fantastic tough dogs that are being studied for their stamina. Worth a look IMO, hopefully more on hunting in episode 2
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Top photo is a Pedigree Patterdale terrier? Bottom photo is a Bull / Russell (Didn't Bert Gripton's terriers have that blue spotting in them?) Bert Gripton Terrier 01.jpg What is the breeding behind this dog, interested in hearing what people think. Terrier 2017.jpg P3d I reckon he's about a quarter bull at best buto from a line that's been kept tight for years lol Spot on, any papers with him LOL Fine looking dog, I had a half cross SBT years ago that had a head like that, he was a great terrier.
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Top photo is a Pedigree Patterdale terrier? Bottom photo is a Bull / Russell (Didn't Bert Gripton's terriers have that blue spotting in them?) Bert Gripton Terrier 01.jpg What is the breeding behind this dog, interested in hearing what people think. Terrier 2017.jpg A guess would be staff bull x pat put back over same reverse bred .......long guess .Handsome chap anyway . FD That is similar to what I believe most dogmen would say. If you saw this dog in the street and you had to guess, i do not think any person who is interested in terriers would not see the
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Top photo is a Pedigree Patterdale terrier? Bottom photo is a Bull / Russell (Didn't Bert Gripton's terriers have that blue spotting in them?) What is the breeding behind this dog, interested in hearing what people think.
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DD That is the question on every terriermens mind when they hear that Mr. Breay and others MAY have added Bull blood. Quoting from "The Fell terrier" there was a well known terrierman who approached Mr. Breay at a show and asked him about Bull blood in his terriers. I believe the answer was there was none. (These men are still alive so the story can be verified regardless of the book source) That terrierman went over and asked because no one had seen that type of dog before in the area. Now most terriermen can see bull influence in a dog, terrier or running dog or even mongrel. It
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DogMan85, Unfortunately not everyone sees it that way. It is easy for some to accept that Bull blood was added "a hundred years ago" but not to accept that it was added 30 years ago. It offends some terriermen to believe that "their line" has bull blood in it, even when its plain to see the bull influence in the dogs. So a "Blue Poll" might be acceptable but a Staff or EBT is out of the question. What a load of cobblers. IMHO it is not a bad mark against a working terrier strain if bull blood is evident, if that is what the breeder wants to do. But some guys are afraid to admit it. (even som
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DogMan85, Unfortunately not everyone sees it that way. It is easy for some to accept that Bull blood was added "a hundred years ago" but not to accept that it was added 30 years ago. It offends some terriermen to believe that "their line" has bull blood in it, even when its plain to see the bull influence in the dogs. So a "Blue Poll" might be acceptable but a Staff or EBT is out of the question. What a load of cobblers. IMHO it is not a bad mark against a working terrier strain if bull blood is evident, if that is what the breeder wants to do. But some guys are afraid to admit it.
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Sounds like a great weekend. Nice permission in the pics.
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Good post eastcoast.
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Nita, Are there Parsons working in Ireland. I have not heard of a line but would like to know.
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So its fair to say that they are not Patterdale terriers? That question is from me to the lads with the knowledge, no one else involved.
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I got a better one, lets stick your name, occupation, an ask about where you live and any other bollocks we feel need to be nosey about, or how about you just man up, say what you want to say, to who you want to say it to, without using somebody elses name as an excuse to say it. Anyybody with more than a few brain cells can see your nowt but a spineless mixer. So lets have your name an job to start with?? John Winch and his occupation, his friendship with Plummer and the history of the Fell terrier was quoted in an article in CMW. I said "who was this guy" to be saying that the "Pa
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Could we get back to talking about Mr. John Winch. He sounds like a proper gent with knowledge of Terriers going back to the 50's. What a book he could write.
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For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot. What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions. You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types. It kills you's that there actually
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For someone who once said that you'd like to see this web-site banned you sure look at it a lot. What you and your type have problem with forums like this compared to face book etc. is that when one comes on to an open forum you have to be prepared to put your money where your mouth is and be prepared for others opinions. You and P3D now and again come on and like to ridicule the breeding of the black lines of terriers. You's nit pick and scrutinize quotes etc. to try and say they just another scatter bred mongeral the same as some other hotch potch types. It kills you's that there actually
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No Way. Good and bad in both.
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loads of them are just black jack russels. Often wondered if there is a connection, Bottle of black dye and most Old School Russells' would pass as a pedigree Patterdale. BUT no Russell would pass as a Fell terrier IMO. Different structure.
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I would guess he read the book, I bet he could write a better one.
