Bosun, I can see where your'e coming from; but in Oz they have a different outlook to pests from us. They built a fence thousands of miles long to keep Dingo's away from stock. They can't understand the oposition to killing feral cats that we have here; feral cats are, I think the number 2 pest down there. Foxes and magpies are very high on the list of pests aswell. I've taken feral dogs, with pure Saluki's, in the Middle East, but never went out especialy for them, and never deliberatly entered a dog to them, but sometimes it just happened, they were classed as pests, just a we class foxes, (