Good thread with some differing views and opinions. I can't for the life of me figure out why people would buy these pups...non working parents, grand parents, great grand parents etc so no graft in the blood at all. There's no selective breeding to retain good traits and remove bad traits as there's no graft. Then there's the price, which is quite dear but made worse because of what i've just stated and going by some of the posts, you just don't know what you're gonna get. Massive gamble taking on these pups imho.