mushroom 13,874 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 48 minutes ago, Chid said: Does it ? At what range was you hit at .. As kids we used to think it was funny to piss off local farmers and they were all to happy to unload it from shotguns at us but we soon learnt to stay out of range. I personally never took a hit but have had it hit/land on me, never penetrated mind. I was there when mates really had it (I’m guessing it was rock salt) I’d say from less than 20 yards and they were scriking like a baby but I’m going on memory from over 35 years ago and they still have the scars and we still laugh about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eastcoast 4,431 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 On 10/06/2025 at 09:15, mackem said: Everyone says this but I remember my area when I was a kid had a huge car theft and burglary problem plus shoplifting gangs,rose tinted spectacles and halcyon days,lol. I grew up not far away and car theft was the entry level/apprenticeship. I always found the Ghia interia thing quite poetic justice. Steal a posh Ford, strip the interior, sell it to a lad who could not afford the top spec but was posh (had a job and legally owned a car), wait until he pays someone to install it, then steal it back and sell again. The gift that kept on giving. Then ram raiding happened. Hard to imagine now, you could drive a Transit and Land Rover into a shopping mall and straight through Curries window. Zero mechanical protection to stop it happening. Not me, I was never brave enough or stupid enough, but good craic 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,874 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, eastcoast said: I grew up not far away and car theft was the entry level/apprenticeship. I always found the Ghia interia thing quite poetic justice. Steal a posh Ford, strip the interior, sell it to a lad who could not afford the top spec but was posh (had a job and legally owned a car), wait until he pays someone to install it, then steal it back and sell again. The gift that kept on giving. Then ram raiding happened. Hard to imagine now, you could drive a Transit and Land Rover into a shopping mall and straight through Curries window. Zero mechanical protection to stop it happening. Not me, I was never brave enough or stupid enough, but good craic An older mate from the village had his Astra “nicked” one night, next day it turned up backend hanging out of Dixons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel cain 48,040 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Just now, mushroom said: As kids we used to think it was funny to piss off local farmers and they were all to happy to unload it from shotguns at us but we soon learnt to stay out of range. I personally never took a hit but have had it hit/land on me, never penetrated mind. I was there when mates really had it (I’m guessing it was rock salt) I’d say from less than 20 yards and they were scriking like a baby but I’m going on memory from over 35 years ago and they still have the scars and we still laugh about it. Myself and cousin used to rip about on my TY on the local farm.,I was probably 12/13 yr old..same as you....looking for a chase one time the farmer was stood in the middle of the path, Infront of the hole we cut in his wire fencing I rode the bike straight at him...as I went past, he let a barrel off ...my cousin Carl took the brunt of it and almost pulled me off the bike with himI never seen the cnut move so fast...got up off the floor holding his arse ran past me on the trials bike got to my Nan's place and he had to lay there while my Nana,mother auntie picked the rock salt out of his legs,arsecheeks and back with tweezers lol...then sprayed him in iodine then too top it off both of us had the leather belt for upsetting Farmer Green half 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,736 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 10 minutes ago, mushroom said: As kids we used to think it was funny to piss off local farmers and they were all to happy to unload it from shotguns at us but we soon learnt to stay out of range. I personally never took a hit but have had it hit/land on me, never penetrated mind. I was there when mates really had it (I’m guessing it was rock salt) I’d say from less than 20 yards and they were scriking like a baby but I’m going on memory from over 35 years ago and they still have the scars and we still laugh about it. Rock salt at 20yards probably wouldn't even penetrate a piece of paper .. never mind going through clothing to leave a scar . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,874 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Chid said: Rock salt at 20yards probably wouldn't even penetrate a piece of paper .. never mind going through clothing to leave a scar . I did say it was 35 years ago and I was 8. Maybe it was closer. Things look bigger when you’re small Regardless, they have the scars and there was nothing much in there to be pulled out at the time. Edited June 11 by mushroom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,479 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 21 minutes ago, eastcoast said: I grew up not far away and car theft was the entry level/apprenticeship. I always found the Ghia interia thing quite poetic justice. Steal a posh Ford, strip the interior, sell it to a lad who could not afford the top spec but was posh (had a job and legally owned a car), wait until he pays someone to install it, then steal it back and sell again. The gift that kept on giving. Then ram raiding happened. Hard to imagine now, you could drive a Transit and Land Rover into a shopping mall and straight through Curries window. Zero mechanical protection to stop it happening. Not me, I was never brave enough or stupid enough, but good craic The thought of my kids growing up in a similar slum would make me shudder,it wasn’t character building,it was just plain shit,but can’t turn the clock back so just made sure my kids had happy carefree childhoods in decent areas. 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Borr 7,549 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, Chid said: Does it though ? Have you ever been hit and at what range . Never been hit, seen photographic images of injuries, never been bum raped but feel it wouldn't be pleasant... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,736 Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 20 minutes ago, Borr said: Never been hit, seen photographic images of injuries, never been bum raped but feel it wouldn't be pleasant... Personally I think rock salt out of a shotgun is a load of shite .. Why would you risk a loss of licence a GBH charge or even an attempted murder charge by firing a bit of salt out a gun that can't penetrate clothing at 20 yards FFS . Old wives tale of you ask me and people believe it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,479 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 You can buy rocksalt cartridges stateside. https://www.ammoman.com/blog/rock-salt-shotgun-shells/ 12ga 2 3/4 Rock Salt 5-Pack - Bullseye Cartridge Co. WWW.BULLSEYE-CARTRIDGE.COM Used for less than lethal force, this light weight shot material brings in the heavy for close range home... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,253 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 10 hours ago, eastcoast said: I grew up not far away and car theft was the entry level/apprenticeship. I always found the Ghia interia thing quite poetic justice. Steal a posh Ford, strip the interior, sell it to a lad who could not afford the top spec but was posh (had a job and legally owned a car), wait until he pays someone to install it, then steal it back and sell again. The gift that kept on giving. Then ram raiding happened. Hard to imagine now, you could drive a Transit and Land Rover into a shopping mall and straight through Curries window. Zero mechanical protection to stop it happening. Not me, I was never brave enough or stupid enough, but good craic Oh the good ole times, I had a set of Ford keys about 25 keys on a ring, had one particular worn key that would start most fords. Had a cortina one eve that started a treat, I drove it out and up the road on the way to my yard it sounded sweet and flew along, it was a 2.3 v6 lump quite rare even in the 90s . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 10,903 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 18 minutes ago, mackem said: You can buy rocksalt cartridges stateside. https://www.ammoman.com/blog/rock-salt-shotgun-shells/ 12ga 2 3/4 Rock Salt 5-Pack - Bullseye Cartridge Co. WWW.BULLSEYE-CARTRIDGE.COM Used for less than lethal force, this light weight shot material brings in the heavy for close range home... Remember an incident over 40 years ago when I was on strike and it came on top one night wile after pheasants a torch was put on my mate from only 15 foot away in which i told him to run the torch then came on me with my back to the keeper he then shot me in the arm which I stumbled over but managed to get up and get away meeting up with my mate further down the wood my arm and shoulder was on and what ever was in the cartridge it had gone through a wax proof coat but had only just broke skin and it looked like small cigarette burns i tend to think it was peppercorn tbh. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 29,479 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 7 minutes ago, tatsblisters said: Remember an incident over 40 years ago when I was on strike and it came on top one night wile after pheasants a torch was put on my mate from only 15 foot away in which i told him to run the torch then came on me with my back to the keeper he then shot me in the arm which I stumbled over but managed to get up and get away meeting up with my mate further down the wood my arm and shoulder was on and what ever was in the cartridge it had gone through a wax proof coat but had only just broke skin and it looked like small cigarette burns i tend to think it was peppercorn tbh. Yeah mate,there's penetration tests on ballistic gel with rocksalt cartridges,including cloth covered Gel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,736 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 20 minutes ago, mackem said: Yeah mate,there's penetration tests on ballistic gel with rocksalt cartridges,including cloth covered Gel. Yea and most of the time the rock salt turns to dust and you get very little penetration that they say wouldn't be enough to break skin .. yet there's loads of people saying there scared from being hit with them . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,353 Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 What part of having to turn your house into the Alamo in a supposed civilised country is OK ? f**k that, that’s not living. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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