Welsh_red 4,996 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 25 minutes ago, gunter said: Mate I need to get the number for whatever drug dealer these boys use come on now there's lunatics about keep pets the odd pet can escape would explain the odd sighting now the uk isn't no massive place do you think if someone really went looking with all the technology that's about nowadays they wouldn't find one or a good sighting Playing devil's advocate I reckon there would probably be the quality of technology now that they could do some sort of mapping to find out But whose looking ? Greymans out with his few trail cams but I dont think anybody with major money is invested in looking for them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 3,031 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 27 minutes ago, gunter said: Mate I need to get the number for whatever drug dealer these boys use come on now there's lunatics about keep pets the odd pet can escape would explain the odd sighting now the uk isn't no massive place do you think if someone really went looking with all the technology that's about nowadays they wouldn't find one or a good sighting you would think so wouldn't you i was watching a video of a drone at night looking for a missing dog with a thermal camera on it and the quality of the video was amazing , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunter 1,511 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 14 minutes ago, greg64 said: you would think so wouldn't you i was watching a video of a drone at night looking for a missing dog with a thermal camera on it and the quality of the video was amazing , Tbh who's anyone to knock what anyone's into if that's his thing then that's his thing I'm just saying with technology about you'd think they'd get a sighting 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Timmy H 512 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 6 hours ago, gunter said: Mate I need to get the number for whatever drug dealer these boys use come on now there's lunatics about keep pets the odd pet can escape would explain the odd sighting now the uk isn't no massive place do you think if someone really went looking with all the technology that's about nowadays they wouldn't find one or a good sighting How many people are actively out looking? Very few. When I saw the pine marten it was a good sighting but no time to get a pic. I asked a few local people if they'd ever seen or heard of martens in that area and the answer was no, never. I reported it to a group based at Exeter university. After a long chat they confirmed other sightings and proof on a trailcam fairly close to that location despite there being no releases in that area. If there are cats still around it is likely to be very few, very difficult to track and even more difficult to film. As long as they are feeding on wildlife and the odd sheep there isn't really a problem. If they attacked a human it might be different but that is unlikely. When the population is small the chance of ordinary people getting proof is negligible, look at the effort that went into a wildlife team getting footage of a snow leopard, dedicated team with the best equipment on location for months on end. If, and it is if, there is still a few cats out there then I would leave them alone until they cause a problem. Species like signal crayfish, parakeets and grey squirrels, mitten crabs and pacific oysters are far more of a problem. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunter 1,511 Posted July 7 Report Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, Timmy H said: How many people are actively out looking? Very few. When I saw the pine marten it was a good sighting but no time to get a pic. I asked a few local people if they'd ever seen or heard of martens in that area and the answer was no, never. I reported it to a group based at Exeter university. After a long chat they confirmed other sightings and proof on a trailcam fairly close to that location despite there being no releases in that area. If there are cats still around it is likely to be very few, very difficult to track and even more difficult to film. As long as they are feeding on wildlife and the odd sheep there isn't really a problem. If they attacked a human it might be different but that is unlikely. When the population is small the chance of ordinary people getting proof is negligible, look at the effort that went into a wildlife team getting footage of a snow leopard, dedicated team with the best equipment on location for months on end. If, and it is if, there is still a few cats out there then I would leave them alone until they cause a problem. Species like signal crayfish, parakeets and grey squirrels, mitten crabs and pacific oysters are far more of a problem. There's pine martens wouldn't be rare over here ..why would a cat be anymore difficult than a fox to track or film it and if they were taking sheep they be over there kill long enough for a sighting ordinary people I dono........ Don't get me started on mitten crabs I've tried everything can't get rid of the buggers 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arnie 11 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 I'm sorry, I thought this was a hunting forum, not Mumsnet. Big cats? All conjecture, posts and posts of what if's with very little evidence to back it up. The UK could potentially host thousands of non-native species, but it doesn't mean they are here. If you are convinced you have seen one, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, but, chances are, you were mistaken and perhaps you are not the countryman you thought you were. As for evidence, where are the road kills? RTA's are the biggest cause of death for big cats across the globe in heavy industrialised regions. Some people are happy to accept anecdotal evidence, others need more convincing. 1) No verified DNA 2) No bodies 3) No clear footage 4) No ecological evidence 5) No viable population origin 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,342 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Arnie said: I'm sorry, I thought this was a hunting forum, not Mumsnet. Big cats? All conjecture, posts and posts of what if's with very little evidence to back it up. The UK could potentially host thousands of non-native species, but it doesn't mean they are here. If you are convinced you have seen one, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, but, chances are, you were mistaken and perhaps you are not the countryman you thought you were. As for evidence, where are the road kills? RTA's are the biggest cause of death for big cats across the globe in heavy industrialised regions. Some people are happy to accept anecdotal evidence, others need more convincing. 1) No verified DNA 2) No bodies 3) No clear footage 4) No ecological evidence 5) No viable population origin Pooof, and as if by magic!!! Hey, Arnie, BIG George Foreman wasn't really that big!! Edited July 8 by shaaark 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 5,110 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 7 minutes ago, shaaark said: Pooof, and as if by magic!!! He joined yesterday as soon as I see the name Arnie I new lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunter 1,511 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Arnie said: I'm sorry, I thought this was a hunting forum, not Mumsnet. Big cats? All conjecture, posts and posts of what if's with very little evidence to back it up. The UK could potentially host thousands of non-native species, but it doesn't mean they are here. If you are convinced you have seen one, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, but, chances are, you were mistaken and perhaps you are not the countryman you thought you were. As for evidence, where are the road kills? RTA's are the biggest cause of death for big cats across the globe in heavy industrialised regions. Some people are happy to accept anecdotal evidence, others need more convincing. 1) No verified DNA 2) No bodies 3) No clear footage 4) No ecological evidence 5) No viable population origin I like this guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 24,590 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Straight in to stir the shit as normal. Cheers Arry 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,996 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Arnie said: I'm sorry, I thought this was a hunting forum, not Mumsnet. Big cats? All conjecture, posts and posts of what if's with very little evidence to back it up. The UK could potentially host thousands of non-native species, but it doesn't mean they are here. If you are convinced you have seen one, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, but, chances are, you were mistaken and perhaps you are not the countryman you thought you were. As for evidence, where are the road kills? RTA's are the biggest cause of death for big cats across the globe in heavy industrialised regions. Some people are happy to accept anecdotal evidence, others need more convincing. 1) No verified DNA 2) No bodies 3) No clear footage 4) No ecological evidence 5) No viable population origin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotty12 3,644 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 37 minutes ago, Arry said: Straight in to stir the shit as normal. Cheers Arry 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arry 24,590 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 There is something wrong with the Guys head and should seek some help. To be so obsessed with a site a thread and a man that you keep coming back time after time after a ban. Spouting the some thing year after year. Yeah I get the fact he does not think bigs cat are here and I've heard his arguments but to go on an on like a broken record there is some thing mentally wrong with him. Cheers Arry 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,406 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Arnie said: I'm sorry, I thought this was a hunting forum, not Mumsnet. Big cats? All conjecture, posts and posts of what if's with very little evidence to back it up. The UK could potentially host thousands of non-native species, but it doesn't mean they are here. If you are convinced you have seen one, then it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks, but, chances are, you were mistaken and perhaps you are not the countryman you thought you were. As for evidence, where are the road kills? RTA's are the biggest cause of death for big cats across the globe in heavy industrialised regions. Some people are happy to accept anecdotal evidence, others need more convincing. 1) No verified DNA 2) No bodies 3) No clear footage 4) No ecological evidence 5) No viable population origin Your back then....lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,020 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 (edited) Edited July 8 by mushroom 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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